The Distinction Between a Looney Tune and a Merrie Melodie

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Jason Todd		#1 Posted : Sunday, January 26, 2020 7:37:01 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 10/29/2017(UTC) Posts: 208 Location: Palm Springs Thanks: 331 times Was thanked: 42 time(s) in 25 post(s)		As we all know, there was originally a difference between the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies series: the main difference being that the Looney Tunes tended to be less song-driven than the Merrie Melodies. Throughout the 1930s, even after production on the Merrie Melodies switched to color, this remained largely true; post-1934, the main difference between the two series' was that one remained in black-and-white until 1943. But, after 1943, there was virtually no difference between a Looney Tune and a Merrie Melodie. How, then, did the folks at Termite Terrace decide which series any particular short would belong to?

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tashlinfan44		#2 Posted : Sunday, January 26, 2020 10:40:06 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 9/4/2019(UTC) Posts: 38 Location: NYC Thanks: 5 times Was thanked: 13 time(s) in 8 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Jason Todd As we all know, there was originally a difference between the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies series: the main difference being that the Looney Tunes tended to be less song-driven than the Merrie Melodies. Throughout the 1930s, even after production on the Merrie Melodies switched to color, this remained largely true; post-1934, the main difference between the two series' was that one remained in black-and-white until 1943. But, after 1943, there was virtually no difference between a Looney Tune and a Merrie Melodie. How, then, did the folks at Termite Terrace decide which series any particular short would belong to? There was no difference after that. The cartoons were just released under any ol’ banner.


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Lee B		#3 Posted : Sunday, January 26, 2020 10:55:03 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 4/23/2018(UTC) Posts: 70 Location: GA Thanks: 62 times Was thanked: 87 time(s) in 33 post(s)		Mark Evanier mentioned this here.... https://www.newsfromme.com/iaq/iaq12/ The relevant part is this: ======= Apart from that, the other main difference was that in 1934, they began to make the Merrie Melodies shorts in color, whereas the Looney Tunes series remained black-and-white until 1943. From then on, no one knew which was which…or cared. This 1975 interview with director Friz Freleng makes the point clear… No, I never knew if a film I was making would be a Looney Tunes or a Merrie Melodie, and what the hell difference would it make, anyway? That pretty much says it. ========== So, sorry Jason, but it sounds like it wasn't a very big deal to the animation teams.

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nickramer		#4 Posted : Sunday, January 26, 2020 10:56:31 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered, Researcher Joined: 10/16/2014(UTC) Posts: 1,100 Thanks: 14 times Was thanked: 331 time(s) in 263 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Lee B ======= Apart from that, the other main difference was that in 1934, they began to make the Merrie Melodies shorts in color, whereas the Looney Tunes series remained black-and-white until 1943. From then on, no one knew which was which…or cared. This 1975 interview with director Friz Freleng makes the point clear… No, I never knew if a film I was making would be a Looney Tunes or a Merrie Melodie, and what the hell difference would it make, anyway? That pretty much says it. ========== True words spoken straight from a master. Edited by user Sunday, January 26, 2020 10:58:16 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified


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eutychus		#5 Posted : Monday, January 27, 2020 12:07:16 AM(UTC)
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Pokey J.Anti-Blockhead		#6 Posted : Monday, January 27, 2020 3:19:45 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 2/3/2015(UTC) Posts: 165 Thanks: 86 times Was thanked: 16 time(s) in 14 post(s)		None of you, nor Cecil Adams, himself, with all due respect to everyone, mentioned the most important: Merire Melodies would plug some Warner Bros.musical comedy song title, rthough 1937'sa "Ain't We Got Fun" promoted the 1910s silent era classic; it wasn't even FROM any movie, as a title song, just happened to BE a Warner owned ditty. Nor were the openings, like the rings on MM's and the various opens betyween LTS thru the WW Two years, or the size of rings between the two series, either (the Looneys had a swirl of music notes for 1938-39, then Porky in a drum,ec. when they bith got rings, Looney Tunes tyoically had fatter rings, than Melodies till 1963, when the 1962 "Now hear this": UPA/grahpc logo was introduced. 1967's "Normnan Normal", released 1/3/68, was a "Cartoon Special" with the LT/MM logo, (the same modern graphic, blue-background, deal, that, by this time, was now used on the "new title"-Korean 1930s/.40s B&W that were "color-traced" in Korea), and the pre-scandal Bill Cosby expierment"The Door" was a one off, not even a "Special" anything, despite Bill 's connection, then, to WB..(Peter Paul and Mary's Paul Stookey, by the same token, was behind the IN-HOUSE CARTOON SPECIAL Norman Normal..:)) Edited by user Monday, January 27, 2020 3:21:35 AM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified


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Mesterius		#7 Posted : Monday, January 27, 2020 3:24:46 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 12/14/2014(UTC) Posts: 577 Thanks: 135 times Was thanked: 362 time(s) in 171 post(s)		I heard they used flipism to decide which films would be Merrie Melodies and which would be Looney Tunes.


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Jason Todd		#8 Posted : Monday, January 27, 2020 5:05:24 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 10/29/2017(UTC) Posts: 208 Location: Palm Springs Thanks: 331 times Was thanked: 42 time(s) in 25 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Mesterius I heard they used flipism to decide which films would be Merrie Melodies and which would be Looney Tunes. Fascinating. Do tell!


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Mesterius		#9 Posted : Monday, January 27, 2020 1:41:07 PM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 12/14/2014(UTC) Posts: 577 Thanks: 135 times Was thanked: 362 time(s) in 171 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Jason Todd Originally Posted by: Mesterius I heard they used flipism to decide which films would be Merrie Melodies and which would be Looney Tunes. Fascinating. Do tell! Sorry, I was joking. :P But they might as well have decided that way after 1943.

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Mario500		#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 29, 2020 2:14:43 AM(UTC)
Rank: Advanced Member Groups: Registered Joined: 12/14/2014(UTC) Posts: 180 Thanks: 7 times Was thanked: 37 time(s) in 33 post(s)		Originally Posted by: nickramer Originally Posted by: Lee B ======= Apart from that, the other main difference was that in 1934, they began to make the Merrie Melodies shorts in color, whereas the Looney Tunes series remained black-and-white until 1943. From then on, no one knew which was which…or cared. This 1975 interview with director Friz Freleng makes the point clear… No, I never knew if a film I was making would be a Looney Tunes or a Merrie Melodie, and what the hell difference would it make, anyway? That pretty much says it. ========== True words spoken straight from a master. I would had not used profanity in that "interview" if I were the one being interviewed.
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