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#61 Posted : Saturday, August 24, 2019 3:12:55 AM(UTC)
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Turns out that "Good Will To Men" was actually restored earlier than for the 2008 Academy Awards DVD. I just found out that the restored Cinemascope version is also included on the 2006 DVD edition of "It's Always Fair Weather". And even better -- it's presented in proper anamorphic widescreen, rather than the letterboxed version on the later Academy Awards set. :) Here are a few screenshots:

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In conclusion: it seems like Warner restored ALL the MGM Cinemascope cartoons in one go back in the mid-2000s when they released the Tom and Jerry entries on the Spotlight Collection DVDs.

Very cool...

...but can you tell us if the short's soundtrack is either mono or stereo? A review of the Academy Awards set says that the audio of every short is encoded as 1.0 mono, but another source says the soundtrack to Good Will to Men was stereo on the It's Always Fair Weather DVD (and possibly Blu-ray):
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IIRC, the only MGM CinemaScope cartoons Warner has released with a stereo soundtrack are Touché, Pussy Cat! from the first Tom and Jerry set and Good Will to Men which is an extra on the WB DVD of It's Always Fair Weather.

Additionally, if the soundtrack is stereo, is it Dolby Surround-encoded?
(You previously told *us* that Touché's stereo mix wasn't surround-encoded; a Dolby Surround 2.0 soundtrack would show up as something like this if the disc info was scanned:
Dolby Digital Audio - English - 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround)

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#62 Posted : Saturday, August 24, 2019 5:49:25 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: WaltWiz1901 Go to Quoted Post
Very cool...

...but can you tell us if the short's soundtrack is either mono or stereo? A review of the Academy Awards set says that the audio of every short is encoded as 1.0 mono, but another source says the soundtrack to Good Will to Men was stereo on the It's Always Fair Weather DVD (and possibly Blu-ray):
Ken McAlinden, Steve Hoffman Music Forums wrote:
IIRC, the only MGM CinemaScope cartoons Warner has released with a stereo soundtrack are Touché, Pussy Cat! from the first Tom and Jerry set and Good Will to Men which is an extra on the WB DVD of It's Always Fair Weather.

Additionally, if the soundtrack is stereo, is it Dolby Surround-encoded?
(You previously told *us* that Touché's stereo mix wasn't surround-encoded; a Dolby Surround 2.0 soundtrack would show up as something like this if the disc info was scanned:
Dolby Digital Audio - English - 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround)


The audio on "Good Will To Men" is in mono on both of the DVD editions, which I have lossless copies of. On the "It's Always Fair Weather" DVD, the audio encoding is in stereo, but the audio itself is still mono (no variation in the left and right speakers). Don't know about the Blu-ray, but I would assume it's the same there.

...and really, what makes you think the audio on any of these old cartoons would be surround-encoded?
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#63 Posted : Saturday, August 24, 2019 5:58:12 AM(UTC)
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I loaded the It's Always Fair Weather DVD version into Audacity and it has two channels there. Is that any help? I'm not even sure I understand exactly what "Dolby Surround 2.0" is (or why it's important for you to find out about this).

Also, here is the media info via Media Player Classic:

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Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz stereo 192kbps [A: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s]
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#64 Posted : Saturday, August 24, 2019 7:39:49 AM(UTC)
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...and really, what makes you think the audio on any of these old cartoons would be surround-encoded?

A few of the shorts/specials in my DVD collection are surround-encoded:
- Mickey Mouse in Living Color: Volume Two: Mickey's Christmas Carol and The Prince and the Pauper
- The Chronological Donald: Volume Four: Grand Canyonscope
- Classic Christmas Favorites: How the Grinch Stole Christmas! (every special included in this set is mono; weirdly, although the other specials are encoded as 1.0 mono, this one seems to be 2.0 surround with the entire soundtrack mapped to the encoded center channel, with no unique information for the left, right, and surround channels)
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I'm not even sure I understand exactly what "Dolby Surround 2.0" is.

Here you go.

Do you have any DVDs where the packaging classifies (one of) the audio track[s] as "Dolby Surround (2.0)" or "Dolby Surround Stereo"? Try running one of them through Media Player Classic and see if anything different comes up.
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#65 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2020 2:03:19 AM(UTC)
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Tex Avery Screwball Classics Volume 1 has been added!

http://www.animationscoo...all-classics-on-blu-ray/
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#66 Posted : Sunday, February 2, 2020 3:08:45 PM(UTC)
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Tex Avery Screwball Classics Volume 1 has been added!

http://www.animationscoo...all-classics-on-blu-ray/


Great. Now could you remove Tom and Jerry Golden Collection Volume 2 from the filmography?
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#67 Posted : Thursday, February 6, 2020 12:50:10 PM(UTC)
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Great. Now could you remove Tom and Jerry Golden Collection Volume 2 from the filmography?




Even though we haven't seen it, it's still delayed. Until there's an official answer that it's cancelled, it's staying.


That said, I'm happy to announce that I'll be adding the laserdisc releases of the MGM cartoons (since, and no disrespect, there weren't a lot of them).

They'll be added momentarily.
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#68 Posted : Friday, February 7, 2020 5:58:34 AM(UTC)
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Great. Now could you remove Tom and Jerry Golden Collection Volume 2 from the filmography?

Even though we haven't seen it, it's still delayed. Until there's an official answer that it's cancelled, it's staying.

It's just silly. In retrospect, we all know it has been cancelled, Warner just hasn't admitted it in public. And in any case, the set never came out. It doesn't even exist physically. Listing 42 Tom and Jerry cartoons as available on Blu-ray in your filmography when said Blu-ray has never existed is very misleading.
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#69 Posted : Saturday, February 29, 2020 8:57:33 AM(UTC)
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There's going to be a DVD edition of Tex Avery Screwball Classics Volume 1 soon:

https://www.intanibase.c...ext-release-is#post29152


And the Warner Archive is set to re-release the Tom and Jerry Golden Collection Volume 1 on Blu-ray next month. So they will be added in a bit.
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