Farnitoon
2023-12-30T07:16:10Z
What scenes did animator Manuel Moreno create in the cartoons Oswald the lucky rabbit and Pooch the Pup?

I'd like to make it clear that I'm mainly interested in the animations produced before 1935 because, from that year onwards, Oswald's design was changed to a horrible white rabbit that was far too realistic, and I have to say that I particularly dislike this version of Oswald whereas I like his earlier designs. I really wonder how Walter Lantz could have let the new animators butcher his character to such an extent, I suppose it's perhaps due to the departure of animator Bill Nolan.
Farnitoon
2024-01-02T14:58:28Z
It seems that Manuel Moreno is so little known that even animation specialists don't know which scene he animated, which is a bit of a shame, even if I should have expected it.
Will Tragus
2024-01-04T04:35:46Z
Manuel Moreno animated for the first time on RACE RIOT, the first Oswald cartoon produced by Walter Lantz, on the first scene where Oswald tries to get his horse out of bed, including the close-up where Oswald examines the horse's tongue. You can see here that the facial expressions of Oswald and his horse are much more polished and diversified than those of the other animators who worked on this short, and Moreno's colleagues will praise his ability to draw highly expressive characters.
RareSox
2024-01-05T14:38:19Z
Originally Posted by: Will Tragus 

Manuel Moreno animated for the first time on RACE RIOT, the first Oswald cartoon produced by Walter Lantz, on the first scene where Oswald tries to get his horse out of bed, including the close-up where Oswald examines the horse's tongue. You can see here that the facial expressions of Oswald and his horse are much more polished and diversified than those of the other animators who worked on this short, and Moreno's colleagues will praise his ability to draw highly expressive characters.



Wasn't that Tom Palmer? Moreno wasn't credited until 1930, so I assume Moreno was Palmer's assistant until he left for Disney, hence the reason why he was promoted to the animators chair.

I know that Austin Jenkins has a reel of Moreno's work on YouTube, but I'd say take it with a grain of salt. Though, if you want to know what Moreno did during the mid-1930s, there's an short subject detailing how cartoons are made. Pay attention to what Lantz said to one of the animators, which could give a hint to what Manuel Moreno did around this time.
Will Tragus
2024-01-07T03:29:10Z
Originally Posted by: RareSox 

Originally Posted by: Will Tragus 

Manuel Moreno animated for the first time on RACE RIOT, the first Oswald cartoon produced by Walter Lantz, on the first scene where Oswald tries to get his horse out of bed, including the close-up where Oswald examines the horse's tongue. You can see here that the facial expressions of Oswald and his horse are much more polished and diversified than those of the other animators who worked on this short, and Moreno's colleagues will praise his ability to draw highly expressive characters.



Wasn't that Tom Palmer? Moreno wasn't credited until 1930, so I assume Moreno was Palmer's assistant until he left for Disney, hence the reason why he was promoted to the animators chair.



This animation is not Tom Palmer's, as Palmer tended to draw crescent eyes on his characters, especially during close-ups, and above all, Oswald's expressions here are completely different from Palmer's.

I should also add that, at the time, assistants could occasionally become animators to compensate for the lack of manpower, as David Hand brilliantly recalled in his interview with Michael Barrier.
ArcLordOne
2024-01-09T03:27:28Z
Here's Manuel gone mariachi:
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HectorJeckle
2024-01-18T06:40:57Z
Originally Posted by: Will Tragus 

Manuel Moreno animated for the first time on RACE RIOT, the first Oswald cartoon produced by Walter Lantz, on the first scene where Oswald tries to get his horse out of bed, including the close-up where Oswald examines the horse's tongue. You can see here that the facial expressions of Oswald and his horse are much more polished and diversified than those of the other animators who worked on this short, and Moreno's colleagues will praise his ability to draw highly expressive characters.



According to Kazblox's study of the animators in THE PRISON PANIC (1930), this passage seems to have been animated by Pinto Colvig, and I've come to this conclusion in particular because of the tongue gag, which is identical to that used by Colvig in the passage about the rat harassing the dog. Still according to Kazblox, Moreno animated the passage where Oswald refreshes himself in the showers and finds the rat there.
Farnitoon
2024-02-08T17:33:17Z
Your answers are very contradictory, it seems that Moreno quickly became a key animator for Lantz as he gave him early credit in the Oswald cartoon credits, however I thank you anyway for replying.

Originally Posted by: ArcLordOne 

Here's Manuel gone mariachi:
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Sorry, but your image isn't showing. What do you want to show me?
ArcLordOne
2024-02-08T23:09:04Z
Originally Posted by: Farnitoon 

Your answers are very contradictory, it seems that Moreno quickly became a key animator for Lantz as he gave him early credit in the Oswald cartoon credits, however I thank you anyway for replying.

Originally Posted by: ArcLordOne 

Here's Manuel gone mariachi:
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Sorry, but your image isn't showing. What do you want to show me?


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