Mesterius
2021-09-08T01:57:37Z
Originally Posted by: SuperMuppet64 

jerry's sheer confidence in a volume 4, plus apparently george being in a higher position than he was before (dont remember where i heard that, mightve been here) seems a little telling. but no counting your chickens before they hatch



Sheer confidence? Jerry is only hinting that there MIGHT be a Volume 4. Those new WAC restoration projects he's talking about may very well be something completely different.
Ian L.
2021-09-08T13:14:44Z
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the only titles not released in this Screwball Classics line are:
-Henpecked Hoboes
-Uncle Tom's Cabana
-Half Pint Pygmy
-Lucky Ducky
-Droopy's Good Deed
-Millionaire Droopy (a remake anyway)
-Cat's Meow (a remake anyway)

Did I miss anything? I'm not sure seven cartoons is enough for a fourth volume unless it's at budget price. Plus many of these are... problematic.
S. C. MacPeter
2021-09-08T13:49:22Z
Yeah that's right. I'm most disappointed about Henpecked Hoboes and Lucky Ducky, I think their essential Avery (particularly Lucky Ducky, I don't think he could ever do a hunting picture wrong), but we'll wait and see
SuperMuppet64
2021-09-08T15:10:52Z
Originally Posted by: Mesterius 

Originally Posted by: SuperMuppet64 

jerry's sheer confidence in a volume 4, plus apparently george being in a higher position than he was before (dont remember where i heard that, mightve been here) seems a little telling. but no counting your chickens before they hatch



Sheer confidence? Jerry is only hinting that there MIGHT be a Volume 4. Those new WAC restoration projects he's talking about may very well be something completely different.




i feel in the past none of jerry's "hints" were ever this definite. im not saying a volume 4 is gonna happen. but his comments are leaning towards "it probably will"
S. C. MacPeter
2021-09-08T16:14:02Z
Even if I am happy at the idea of volume 4, volume 3 merely happening has made me happy, after months of no clues and just waiting. When I heard that George returned I thought they would only begin now, but I'm glad it happened under people's noses and done the right way while correcting whatever cartoons they could. I'll like to make one comparison: Little Tinker I always thought had an unusually good Turner print, until yesterday.

This is how Little Tinker looks on the Turner print
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This is the image Jerry posted yesterday. Notice a stronger depth in colors, and the fact you can see the Skunk's outlines. Of course, this is natural from using the best 35mm sources but worth noting nonetheless
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Mesterius
2021-09-09T00:06:04Z
Originally Posted by: SuperMuppet64 

Originally Posted by: Mesterius 

Originally Posted by: SuperMuppet64 

jerry's sheer confidence in a volume 4, plus apparently george being in a higher position than he was before (dont remember where i heard that, mightve been here) seems a little telling. but no counting your chickens before they hatch



Sheer confidence? Jerry is only hinting that there MIGHT be a Volume 4. Those new WAC restoration projects he's talking about may very well be something completely different.




i feel in the past none of jerry's "hints" were ever this definite. im not saying a volume 4 is gonna happen. but his comments are leaning towards "it probably will"



Jerry also said after the backlash with Porky Pig 101 that Warner Archive would never again put out a set where the cartoons weren't properly restored. Then look what happened with Avery Volume 2.

The simple truth is that Jerry is a consultant for Warner Bros., not one of the bosses there. He pushes to get things released (and hopefully restored well), but with Warner these days, there's no guarantee for anything.
S. C. MacPeter
2021-09-13T00:09:06Z
Something interesting on the Cartoon Research FB

Jerry was asked if Wild and Wolfy would appear with the original opening, to which he said not, but that WB does have an original nitrate that's sadly unacceptable (me thinks it's a little deteriorated), but he posted a photo of said nitrate, which seems to be an image I had shared on the vol 2 thread long ago. I'd post the image but I'm having issues, but you can view the post here 
S. C. MacPeter
2021-10-04T02:32:19Z
Just to be sure, has anyone received a shipping notice on Avery V3? Or the same thing happening as did with the recent Woody set and Avery V2
eutychus
2021-10-04T10:03:20Z
Originally Posted by: S. C. MacPeter 

Just to be sure, has anyone received a shipping notice on Avery V3? Or the same thing happening as did with the recent Woody set and Avery V2



I got a notice from Amazon that mine should be here tomorrow.
HeySteve
2021-10-04T12:11:56Z
I haven’t gotten any recent notifications, but several weeks ago, within days after placing my order, Amazon sent me an email with a delivery estimate between Oct. 8-Oct. 11. I imagine I will get an email once they actually ship it out.
Leviathan
2021-10-04T13:27:28Z
When you guys get your sets, please do give a full report.

I refrained from pre-ordering because I'm sick of the WAC's nasty surprises, and didn't want to be hit with a set with more undisclosed problems.
HeySteve
2021-10-04T15:28:18Z
I just got an email from Amazon that my order has shipped and will be arriving tomorrow. A pleasant surprise as I wasn’t expecting that.
S. C. MacPeter
2021-10-04T23:32:39Z
Checked earlier today and I have confirmation that I will be getting the blu ray tomorrow! I will try to note things about each cartoon as I watch through them and post thoughts here. I have a few questions still to be answered
Bradskey
2021-10-05T20:02:41Z
Got mine today! Watching this evening 🙂
S. C. MacPeter
2021-10-05T22:27:20Z
Finished going through the set, I don't have anyway to rip shorts, I can't share photos directly, but assure me when I say they all look stunning and really good. Audio was consistently great throughout though starting with King Sized Canary some sound like Turner Audio but appear not to be when I checked. Crackpot Quail still has the photoshopped titles and does use Turner Audio on the titles. Here's a short write up for the main show, PS means Perfect Standards for when a short looks as beautiful as expected without having much to say:

Quick Quality Notes: Nothing is censored, or added. The ones seen as reissues are still reissues, and ones with original titles are still original titles

Blitz Wolf: Unavoidable Dupe is VERY noticeable, by the treaty everything goes to normal and is as beautiful as you want. Audio consistently good throughout for those curious

The Early Bird Dood it!: Few shots blurrier than others (likely alignment of two 35mms for best look), for one frame I swear I could see it fading into the original end card. Reissue music throughout

One Ham’s Family: All previous copies with heavy DVNR can be happily put to shame, PS

Happy Go Nutty: Originally done for V1, so is PS for sure!

Jerky Turkey: Very sharp and colorful, I suspect separations masters exist for this one, you will be wowed by this one

Dangerous Dan McGoo: Also likely from separation masters. Audio is also really good on this above that it stands out! Standout short having standout materials is a good combo

Swing Shift Cinderella: Opening lion looks darker than normal, but the later blue MGM title look inconsistent throughout. A whole different watch, possibly separation sourced (again). One might think it’s dark but it’s clear the palette itself is dark

Wild and Woolfy: Refer to thoughts on Dan McGoo. Wasn’t the biggest fan of this one until now, it’s great!

Northwest Hounded Police: Refer to thoughts on Swing Shift Cinderella, particularly the last line. Feels like a first time watch, it looked incredible

Slap Happy Lion: PS, back to normal color look, T&J end title card is still there, meaning no recreation edits were made, very good looking

King Sized Canary: Every copy I've seen on this short has looked pretty nice and this is no different, PS

What Size Fleadom: PS though audio sounded a little muffled in some bits (I did a check and it doesn’t appear to be Turner Audio though)

Little Tinker: Colors are much stronger and detailed, will feel like a better cartoon for those who have dismissed (I’ve always liked it anyway)

Senõr Droopy: Redone from MeTV 2011-esque print as expected, PS

Cock a Doodle Dog: Redone from MeTV 2011-esque print as expected, all copies before are clearly sourced from Metrocolor, making this another standout

Rock a Bye Bear: Redone from MeTV 2011-esque print as expected, possibly the best looking on this set, and crisp audio. Makes up happily for the terrible copy seen earlier in the year. Various cel levels in this one might make it seem like DVNR is present, though this is not the case

Little Johnny Jet: Upgrade from the DVD copy in color, image, and audio, PS

Billy Boy: Opening title might be from the MeTV copy (the only bit reusing Turner Audio too), otherwise redone from MeTV 2011-esque print as expected and very colorful, PS

Deputy Droopy: Redone from MeTV 2011-esque print as expected, PS

Cellbound: Redone from MeTV 2011-esque print as expected, PS
Leviathan
2021-10-05T22:42:37Z
That's good news. I took the plunge on the set based on your write.

Glad to know standards are back up to par, and that's clearly in spite of the WAC and its shills and not because of them. If it wasn't for people calling out the problems of Volume 2, this would be full of those terrible MeTV copies and.
Zachary
2021-10-06T00:55:43Z
But still with the fake reformatted titles on The Crackpot Quail, as I feared after seeing the images in the September 7 Cartoon Research announcement and yesterday's Keith Scott article, and in spite of Jerry's reply to someone's concern about this in the former article's comments that "FYI – That Crackpot Quail title card is the ONLY framegrab in this post that ISN’T from the Avery 3 set."

Nice to hear that this cartoon's originally-intended audio is making its world debut married to a visual element tainted with modern-day revisionism.

At least it sounds like the MGM cartoon restorations are more-or-less all back up to snuff.
S. C. MacPeter
2021-10-06T03:17:06Z
Originally Posted by: Leviathan 

That's good news. I took the plunge on the set based on your write



Glad to hear I could convince someone this set is worth picking up. Hope you all feel the same way I do when you get it.

Lee B
2021-10-07T02:26:55Z
Just threw it in for the first time. Since it’s a guilty pleasure of mine, I went right to Jerky Turkey. On the one hand, it looks sharper and crisper than I’ve ever seen. On the other hand, we’ve got some DVNR going on. The three hairs on the turkey’s head definitely have pieces erased from frame to frame.
S. C. MacPeter
2021-10-07T02:44:28Z
Originally Posted by: Lee B 

Just threw it in for the first time. Since it’s a guilty pleasure of mine, I went right to Jerky Turkey. On the one hand, it looks sharper and crisper than I’ve ever seen. On the other hand, we’ve got some DVNR going on. The three hairs on the turkey’s head definitely have pieces erased from frame to frame.



Not DVNR, similar to Rock a Bye Bear, it seems to be a camera error caused by various cel levels. Older copies have the same disappearing pieces too
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