OutOfOdor
3 years ago
Hey, there! What I've compiled here is a partial list of Terry Aesop Fables that ended up as part of the Stuart/Guaranteed package back in 1950 or thereabouts. These releases are of particular fascination to me because of the Winston Sharples stock music utilized in them, so I guess it was inevitable I try and make a partial list of these. I know these are part of that package, either because I've seen their title cards on BCDB, or because I've seen videos of them on YT. If anyone's got any others to add, let me know. (Incidentally, I'm interested in copies of the ones in this list that currently aren't on YT or some other video site, just since I'm curious as to what music they used.)
-All Star Cast (1924)
-Alley Cat (1923)
-Amateur Night at the Ark (1923)
-Animal Fair (1924)
-Ant Life as It Isn't (1927)
-At the Zoo (1925)
-Baby Show (1928)
-Barnyard Artists (1928)
-Barnyard Lodge Number One (1928)
-Barnyard Politics (1928)
-Ball Park (1929)
-Big Hearted Fish (1927)
-The Big Reward (1927)
-The Charleston Queen (1926)
-Circus (1923)
-Desert Shieks (1924)
-English Channel Swim (1926)
-The Farmer and His Cat (1922)
- The Farmer and the Ostrich (1922)
-Gold Push (1926) (labelled “Gold Rush”)
-Good Old Circus Days (1924)
-Herman the Great Mouse (1924)
-Home Talent (1924)
-The Housing Shortage (1925)
-Hunting in 1950 (1926)
-In Vaudeville (1926)
-Jungle Vaudeville
-Knight Out (1926)
-Land Boom (1926)
-The Laundry Man (1928)
-Lindy’s Cat (1927)
- The Lion and the Mouse (1922)
-Little Parade (1926)
-Marathon Dancers (1923)
-the Musical Parrot (1926)
-On the Links (1928)
-One Man Dog (1927)
-Over the Plate (1925)
-Pests (1927)
-Phoney Express (1926)
-Riding High (1927)
-The Runt (1925)
-School Days (1926)
-Tit for Tat (1927)
-Transatlantic Flight (1925)
-Trip to the Pole (1924)
-Ugly Duckling (1925)

A tip of the hat goes to Tommy Stathes and "fourninefiveseven7" for their additions.
"With all respect to the great mousetrap."- Popeye, "The Spinach Overture" (1935)
Tommy Stathes
3 years ago
Off the top of my head:

The Farmer and His Cat (1922)
Home Talent (1924)
Animal Fair (1924)
All Star Cast (1924)
Trip to the Pole (1924)
Transatlantic Flight (1925)
Over the Plate (1925)
Big Hearted Fish (1926)
English Channel Swim (1926)
In Vaudeville (1926)
Ugly Duckling (1926)
Phoney Express (1926)
School Days (1926)
Baby Show (1927)
Tit For Tat (1927)
On the Links (1928)

OutOfOdor
3 years ago
Thanks so much, Tommy!
"Alley Cat" is one I'd personally love to see one of these days, incidentally. Sounds really weird from what I've heard about it.
"With all respect to the great mousetrap."- Popeye, "The Spinach Overture" (1935)
Tommy Stathes
3 years ago

Thanks so much, Tommy!
"Alley Cat" is one I'd personally love to see one of these days, incidentally. Sounds really weird from what I've heard about it.

Originally Posted by: OutOfOdor 



My pleasure...and I love that one! I do think I plan to include it in a new Farmer Al collection. Too many to choose from here, but that one has always stuck out to me.
OutOfOdor
3 years ago
That would be swell.

A few things I'm wondering about these prints, incidentally:
1. I notice the copyright bylines vary wildly on these. Some of them just say "All Rights Reserved", others have the original copyright info for the short, along with a 1955 copyright for the Stuart version. I'm guessing the ones with just "All Rights Reserved" came first, and are from about 1950, although I don't know if they just released a second batch of these in 1955 or whatever.

2. Would it be right to say that the Ko-Kos were done after the Aesops were finished? I notice those have some of the same soundtracks as some of the Aesops ("Ugly Duckling's" soundtrack of Sharples cues was one of the ones that was re-used in the Ko-Kos IIRC, same with part of the one edited for "Hunting in 1950"), but they just re-used the same tracks over and over. Were there just a bunch of pre-edited compilations Guaranteed used, incidentally? I know I've heard one specific "Rag Dog" track play after a "Merry Kittens" track in both "Ugly Duckling" and "One Man Dog".
"With all respect to the great mousetrap."- Popeye, "The Spinach Overture" (1935)
Tommy Stathes
3 years ago
It's hard to say. I'm sure Stuart/Guaranteed custom edited some of these tracks together, and sometimes you'll hear the tracks change depending on the action in the cartoon. They may very well have simply reused some of their own recuts for multiple cartoons.
OutOfOdor
3 years ago
Hate to "bump", but while I'm thinking about it - I think the Guaranteed/Stuart operation might have used multiple "stock" libraries in their TV prints: the Sharples stuff, stuff that may or may not be Sharples (the track that opens the Cinepix print of "Billy Goat's Whiskers" and the jazzy track at 3:11 in that same print come to mind), another library that had the longer "neutrals" used in quite a bit of Stuart Aesops (like in the opening of "Barnyard Artists" and throughout "Land Boom" and much of "Little Parade"), and I think the English Boosey and Hawkes library, now owned by Cavendish Music - I distinctly remember the Guaranteed versions of "Transatlantic Flight" and "Gold Push" on some film collector's YT channel, and the latter had a track the Content ID bot identified as being called "Galloping Hooves", composed by Richard Howgill, on one of Cavendish's old albums.

The library with the "neutrals" reminds me, by way of the sound of the orchestra, of Jack Shaindlin's stuff. I have a few "neutral" stuff in my archives that have a similar feel, but I don't think any of the cues I have were ever used by Stuart. There are a few Cinemusic albums with neutral and "children" tracks that might have at least one of these tracks, but we may never know.
"With all respect to the great mousetrap."- Popeye, "The Spinach Overture" (1935)
OutOfOdor
3 years ago

Thanks so much, Tommy!
"Alley Cat" is one I'd personally love to see one of these days, incidentally. Sounds really weird from what I've heard about it.

Originally Posted by: Tommy Stathes 



My pleasure...and I love that one! I do think I plan to include it in a new Farmer Al collection. Too many to choose from here, but that one has always stuck out to me.

Originally Posted by: OutOfOdor 



Nothing to do with new additions to the list - but I finally saw "Alley Cat" as part of a Lobster Films "Cartoon Factory" episode. The nightmare sequence where Farmer Al is persecuted by the Kitty KKK for his actions earlier is wonderful. Probably inadvertent, but gotta love how there's happy comedic stock music during the Farmer's nightmare, heh.

(I actually have that very track in my collection, so DM me if you're interested. Arrangement on my copy is subtly different, but it's identifiable enough that it's that same composition.)
"With all respect to the great mousetrap."- Popeye, "The Spinach Overture" (1935)
PopKorn Kat
3 years ago
Honestly, I feel mannduke's guessing game may have been a wee bit too obscure. The last I heard about the NAAH drama was the owner of the channel taking down the pirated Thunderbean and Cartoons On Film releases, as Tommy Jose mentioned. People who are unfamiliar with NAAH and the reuploader will have no idea what you were referring to.
PopKorn Kat
3 years ago
...and what is so special about a random person reuploading another person's rip from a Thunderbean Blu-Ray?

(In any case, such discussions are getting off-track from the thread topic, so let's veer back into familiar Fable territory, shall we?)
2 years ago
Copyright renewal records determine the following to have also been part of the Stuart/Guaranteed package of Fables:

Ant Life As It Isn't (1927)
The Charlestown Queen (1926)
The Musical Parrot (1926)
2 years ago
Blackhawk Films sublicensed the Koko and Fables cartoons from Guaranteed Pictures later in the 50s. Here's what they had in their catalog circa 1958:

AESOP'S FABLES CARTOONS:
AT THE ZOO (Aesop's Fable)
ANT LIFE AS IT ISN't (Aesop's Fable)
AMATEUR NIGHT ON THE ARK (Aesop's Fable)
ALL STAR CAST (Aesop's Fable)
THE ANIMAL FAIR (Aesop's Fable)
THE BALL PARK (Aesop's Fable)
BABY SHOW (Aesop's Fable)
BIG HEARTED (Aesop's Fable)
BARNYARD LODGE (Aesop's Fable)
BARNYARD FOlLlES (Aesop's Fable)
BARNYARD ARTIST (Aesop's Fable)
THE BIG REWARD (Aesop's Fable)
BARNYARD POLITICS (Aesop's Fable)
BOBBY BUMP'S FOURTH CABARET (Aesop's Fable) (??)
THE DESERT SHIEK (Aesop's Fable)
ENGLISH CHANNEL SWIM (Aesop's Fable)
THE FARMER AND THE CAT (Aesop's Fable)
THE GOLD RUSH (Aesop's Fable)
GOOD OLD CIRCUS DAYS (Aesop's Fable)
THE HOUSING SHORTAGE (Aesop's Fable)
HERMAN THE GREAT MOUSE (Aesop's Fable)
HUNTING (Aesop's Fable)
HOME TALENT (Aesop's Fable)
IN VAUDEVILLE (Aesop's Fable)
IN THE ARCTIC (Aesop's Fable)
JUNGLE CHOP HOUSE (Aesop's Fable)
JUNGLE VAUDEVILLE (Aesop's Fable)
KNIGHT OUT (Aesop's Fable)
LINDYS CAT (Aesop's Fable) -
LAUNDRY MAN (Aesop's Fable)
THE LITTLE PARADE (Aesop's Fable)
THE LAST HA HA (Aesop's Fable)
MARATHON DANCERS (Aesop's Fable)
MARATHON SHOES (Aesop's Fable)
THE MAGIC MIRROR (Aesop's Fable)
ONE MAN DOG (Aesop's Fable)
ON THE LINKS (Aesop's Fable)
ON THE TERRACE (Aesop's Fable)
OVER THE PLATE (Aesop's Fable)
THE PESTS (Aesop's Fable)
PHONEY EXPRESS (Aesop's Fable)
RIDING HIGH (Aesop's Fable)
THE RUNT (Aesop's Fable)
ROCK-A-BYE BABY (Aesop's Fable)
SCHOOL DAYS (Aesop's Fable)
A TRIP TO THE POLE (Aesop's Fable)
TIT FOR TAT (Aesop's Fable)
TRANSATLANTIC FLlGHT (Aesop's Fable)
THE TANTALIZING FLY (Aesop's Fable)
THE UGLY DUCKLING (Aesop's Fable)

KOKO THE CLOWN CARTOONS:
KOKO BAFFLES THE BULLS
KOKO GOES GHOSTING
KOKO AND THE KOP
KOKO ON THE RUN
KOKO IN REVERSE
KOKO IN TRAINING
KOKO IN TOYLAND
KOKO THE HOT SHOT
KOKO THE RUNAWAY
KOKO THE MECHANICAL DOLL
KOKO KILLS TIME
KOKO THE KNIGHT
KOKO NUTS
KOKO NEEDlES THE BOSS
KOKO THE KID
KOKO PACKS UP
KOKO SMOKES
KOKO TREADING WATER
KOKO SALUTES
KOKO, IT'S THE CATS
KOKO SQUEALS
KOKO SWATS 'EM
KOKO'S ALARM
KOKO'S BARNYARD
KOKOS BIG CATCH
KOKOS BALLOONS
KOKOS BEDTIME
KOKOS EARTH CONTROL
KOKO'S KRAZY KATCH
KOKO'S HAUNTED HAT
KOKOS JUMPING BEANS
KOKO'S KANE
KOKO'S PUP TALENT
KOKO'S REUNION
KOKO'S RUNAWAY
KOKO'S SHOW TIME
KOKO'S SLIPPERY SUDS
KOKO'S STORM
KOKO'S TREASURE HUNT
KOKO'S TOOT TOOT
KOKOS LAMPS ALADDIN
KOKO'S TATTOO
PERPETUAL MOTION (Koko)
OutOfOdor
2 years ago
Thanks!
"With all respect to the great mousetrap."- Popeye, "The Spinach Overture" (1935)
OutOfOdor
2 years ago
/one quick thing: some of these don't appear to be in the filmography on this site, like "Marathon Shoes" and "on the Terrace"...
"With all respect to the great mousetrap."- Popeye, "The Spinach Overture" (1935)
Tommy Stathes
2 years ago
Can you post a photo of the catalog page? I suspect these were used prints being sold, at the time, and not new printings from Blackhawk.

Two Bray films in the list, Bobby Bumps' Fourth and Perpetual Motion, were not handled by Guaranteed Pictures. Bray Studios was still marketing these titles for television and non-theatrical use in the late 50s, and some used prints may have slipped through the cracks and into Blackhawk's used films department, for resale. There is no record in the surviving Bray papers of the studio ever having sold or licensed anything to Blackhawk, directly.

Similarly, some of the Inkwells and Fables listed do not seem to be Guaranteed offerings to me. Some of the Fables may be from the Commonwealth package, and some of the Inkwells from the Weiss Bros.

Blackhawk Films sublicensed the Koko and Fables cartoons from Guaranteed Pictures later in the 50s. Here's what they had in their catalog circa 1958:

AESOP'S FABLES CARTOONS:
AT THE ZOO (Aesop's Fable)
ANT LIFE AS IT ISN't (Aesop's Fable)
AMATEUR NIGHT ON THE ARK (Aesop's Fable)
ALL STAR CAST (Aesop's Fable)
THE ANIMAL FAIR (Aesop's Fable)
THE BALL PARK (Aesop's Fable)
BABY SHOW (Aesop's Fable)
BIG HEARTED (Aesop's Fable)
BARNYARD LODGE (Aesop's Fable)
BARNYARD FOlLlES (Aesop's Fable)
BARNYARD ARTIST (Aesop's Fable)
THE BIG REWARD (Aesop's Fable)
BARNYARD POLITICS (Aesop's Fable)
BOBBY BUMP'S FOURTH CABARET (Aesop's Fable) (??)
THE DESERT SHIEK (Aesop's Fable)
ENGLISH CHANNEL SWIM (Aesop's Fable)
THE FARMER AND THE CAT (Aesop's Fable)
THE GOLD RUSH (Aesop's Fable)
GOOD OLD CIRCUS DAYS (Aesop's Fable)
THE HOUSING SHORTAGE (Aesop's Fable)
HERMAN THE GREAT MOUSE (Aesop's Fable)
HUNTING (Aesop's Fable)
HOME TALENT (Aesop's Fable)
IN VAUDEVILLE (Aesop's Fable)
IN THE ARCTIC (Aesop's Fable)
JUNGLE CHOP HOUSE (Aesop's Fable)
JUNGLE VAUDEVILLE (Aesop's Fable)
KNIGHT OUT (Aesop's Fable)
LINDYS CAT (Aesop's Fable) -
LAUNDRY MAN (Aesop's Fable)
THE LITTLE PARADE (Aesop's Fable)
THE LAST HA HA (Aesop's Fable)
MARATHON DANCERS (Aesop's Fable)
MARATHON SHOES (Aesop's Fable)
THE MAGIC MIRROR (Aesop's Fable)
ONE MAN DOG (Aesop's Fable)
ON THE LINKS (Aesop's Fable)
ON THE TERRACE (Aesop's Fable)
OVER THE PLATE (Aesop's Fable)
THE PESTS (Aesop's Fable)
PHONEY EXPRESS (Aesop's Fable)
RIDING HIGH (Aesop's Fable)
THE RUNT (Aesop's Fable)
ROCK-A-BYE BABY (Aesop's Fable)
SCHOOL DAYS (Aesop's Fable)
A TRIP TO THE POLE (Aesop's Fable)
TIT FOR TAT (Aesop's Fable)
TRANSATLANTIC FLlGHT (Aesop's Fable)
THE TANTALIZING FLY (Aesop's Fable)
THE UGLY DUCKLING (Aesop's Fable)

KOKO THE CLOWN CARTOONS:
KOKO BAFFLES THE BULLS
KOKO GOES GHOSTING
KOKO AND THE KOP
KOKO ON THE RUN
KOKO IN REVERSE
KOKO IN TRAINING
KOKO IN TOYLAND
KOKO THE HOT SHOT
KOKO THE RUNAWAY
KOKO THE MECHANICAL DOLL
KOKO KILLS TIME
KOKO THE KNIGHT
KOKO NUTS
KOKO NEEDlES THE BOSS
KOKO THE KID
KOKO PACKS UP
KOKO SMOKES
KOKO TREADING WATER
KOKO SALUTES
KOKO, IT'S THE CATS
KOKO SQUEALS
KOKO SWATS 'EM
KOKO'S ALARM
KOKO'S BARNYARD
KOKOS BIG CATCH
KOKOS BALLOONS
KOKOS BEDTIME
KOKOS EARTH CONTROL
KOKO'S KRAZY KATCH
KOKO'S HAUNTED HAT
KOKOS JUMPING BEANS
KOKO'S KANE
KOKO'S PUP TALENT
KOKO'S REUNION
KOKO'S RUNAWAY
KOKO'S SHOW TIME
KOKO'S SLIPPERY SUDS
KOKO'S STORM
KOKO'S TREASURE HUNT
KOKO'S TOOT TOOT
KOKOS LAMPS ALADDIN
KOKO'S TATTOO
PERPETUAL MOTION (Koko)

Originally Posted by: fourninefiveseven7 



OutOfOdor
2 years ago
With that in mind - some of these are probably indeed Commonwealth prints - no wonder I couldn't find some of these in the IAD listings, they're probably retitles. Plus, I see the Bray "The Tantalizing Fly" labelled as a Fable for some reason
"With all respect to the great mousetrap."- Popeye, "The Spinach Overture" (1935)
Tommy Stathes
2 years ago

With that in mind - some of these are probably indeed Commonwealth prints - no wonder I couldn't find some of these in the IAD listings, they're probably retitles. Plus, I see the Bray "The Tantalizing Fly" labelled as a Fable for some reason

Originally Posted by: OutOfOdor 



I'd missed Tantalizing, but yes, that's another Bray and not a Fable. You're right—some of those Fables are likely retitled Commonwealths.
2 years ago
Here's a link to an image of the catalog. 

That these were used prints seems to be correct, as it is mentioned that they came from television and were in "excellent used condition." Note how Bobby Bumps' Fourth is listed without being designated as a Fable, unlike the other Bray ones (prepetual motion is simply listed as (Koko).
Tommy Stathes
2 years ago

Here's a link to an image of the catalog. 

That these were used prints seems to be correct, as it is mentioned that they came from television and were in "excellent used condition." Note how Bobby Bumps' Fourth is listed without being designated as a Fable, unlike the other Bray ones (prepetual motion is simply listed as (Koko).

Originally Posted by: Fourninefiveseven 



Thanks for posting!

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