Pup on a Picnic's Correct Aspect Ratio Revealed! · The Internet Animation Database

LuckyToon
Advanced Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

While I was watching one of the WB Kids videos which featured 2 clips from "Pup on a Picnic" in this video at 5:18 and 13:31. I noticed the cartoon is presented in its original uncropped Cinemascope aspect ratio with the sides shown.

For those that don't know, on the notorious "Tom & Jerry Spotlight Collection Vol. 3" DVD, the cartoon is presented in a cropped 16:9 aspect ratio, where the sides are cropped loosing some information on the video. It can be proven on this page at the Tom & Jerry Wiki which I added information to recently.

Spread the word to WB on this petition I made here .

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Daffyrocks18
Member

7 years ago

#2

So this short was INDEED released in Cinemascope, unlike what we all initially thought that the Spotlight Collection DVD released a "fake" widescreen version? Just WOW!

I wonder then how Turner couldn't find the Cinemascope print at all, unlike for all the other 1954-1955 widescreen shorts.

"WOO HOO! WOO HOO! WOO HOO-HOO-HOO-HOO!!!!"

Cool_Cat
Advanced Member

7 years ago

#3

I had it ages ago from Super RTL

Mesterius
Advanced Member

7 years ago

#4

So this short was INDEED released in Cinemascope, unlike what we all initially thought that the Spotlight Collection DVD released a "fake" widescreen version? Just WOW!

I wonder then how Turner couldn't find the Cinemascope print at all, unlike for all the other 1954-1955 widescreen shorts.

Originally Posted by: Daffyrocks18

Who are "we all"?? I can't remember seeing anyone talking about this short's release on the Spotlight Collection as a "fake widescreen version" (i.e. a widescreen crop of the Academy ratio version). It's widely known that "Pup on a Picnic" was one of the four T&J shorts to be released both in Academy ratio and Cinemascope back in the mid-fifties. (Ideally, a perfect DVD/Blu-ray edition should include BOTH ratio versions of these four shorts... but that's probably dreaming by this point.)

What we don't know is why Warner cropped the Cinemascope print of this particular film to 16:9 for the Spotlight Collection release. Seems like a pure mistake, considering all the other shorts are in full Cinemascope. But clearly, they RESTORED it in the full Scope ratio, just like they did with all the widescreen shorts.

Edited by user 7 years ago | Reason: Not specified

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Daffyrocks18
Member

7 years ago

#5

So this short was INDEED released in Cinemascope, unlike what we all initially thought that the Spotlight Collection DVD released a "fake" widescreen version? Just WOW!

I wonder then how Turner couldn't find the Cinemascope print at all, unlike for all the other 1954-1955 widescreen shorts.

Originally Posted by: Mesterius

Who are "we all"?? I can't remember seeing anyone talking about this short's release on the Spotlight Collection as a "fake widescreen version" (i.e. a widescreen crop of the Academy ratio version). It's widely known that "Pup on a Picnic" was one of the four T&J shorts to be released both in Academy ratio and Cinemascope back in 1955. (Ideally, a perfect DVD/Blu-ay edition should include BOTH ratio versions of these four shorts... but that's probably dreaming by this point.)

What we don't know is why Warner cropped the Cinemascope print of this particular film to 16:9 for the Spotlight Collection release. Seems like a pure mistake, considering all the other shorts are in full Cinemascope. But clearly, they RESTORED it in the full Scope ratio, just like they did with all the widescreen shorts.

Originally Posted by: Daffyrocks18

Oh my.

At least I never knew for sure if it was released in both aspects. Silly me...

"WOO HOO! WOO HOO! WOO HOO-HOO-HOO-HOO!!!!"

Lee B
Advanced Member

7 years ago

#6

For the record, the version Warner Bros. has on YouTube for 99 cents IS the CinemaScope version of Pup on a Picnic. It's only in SD, but that's no worse than it would have been on the previous DVD set.

Edited by user 7 years ago | Reason: corrected spelling of CinemaScope

LuckyToon
Advanced Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#7

For the record, the version Warner Bros. has on YouTube for 99 cents IS the Cinescope version of Pup on a Picnic. It's only in SD, but that's no worse than it would have been on the previous DVD set.

Originally Posted by: Lee B

Well that's good, so at least they have it for to watch for only almost a dollar which is not that much.

Can someone pay, download, and send me that copy of the cartoon? I want it so bad.

Use these sites for to download and send.

Online Video Converter

Send Space

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Kristjan
Advanced Member

7 years ago

#8

I wouldn't mind if some one sent me copy as well. I'm even willing to send 1 dollar.

Jason Todd
Advanced Member

7 years ago

#9

I purchased this cartoon and various Golden Collection 2 entries on YouTube a year ago. It's a shame that they're DRM-protected, because I want to be able to save them onto my laptop for my own private screening purposes, and I don't know how to get around that.

LuckyToon
Advanced Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#10

I purchased this cartoon and various Golden Collection 2 entries on YouTube a year ago. It's a shame that they're DRM-protected, because I want to be able to save them onto my laptop for my own private screening purposes, and I don't know how to get around that.

Originally Posted by: Jason Todd

I think using Bandicam is a way to get past that.

bodek610
Advanced Member

7 years ago

#11

@Luckytoon: Fraps would be better to use in my opinion.

BTW: If you have an access to German Amazon Prime you can get almost all remastered T&JGC2 shorts (without Mouse Cleaning and Casanova Cat, because instead of both shorts Posse Cat and Puppy Tale were restored).

LuckyToon
Advanced Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#12

@Luckytoon: Fraps would be better to use in my opinion.

BTW: If you have an access to German Amazon Prime you can get almost all remastered T&JGC2 shorts (without Mouse Cleaning and Casanova Cat, because instead of both shorts Posse Cat and Puppy Tale were restored).

Originally Posted by: bodek610

No thanks, I'm use to Bandicam. But feel free to use Fraps yourself, I don't have nothing against you.

Anyways, I don't use Amazon Prime to be honest (although I do have an Amazon account). And besides, a friend of mine "Mihai Alexandru Chetreanu" has uploaded most of the restored T&JGC2 shorts on his Dailymotion channel and his 2 Vimeo channels as well.

Dailymotion

Vimeo (old)

Vimeo (new)

Lee B
Advanced Member

6 years ago

#13

Okay kids, I've finished dealing with Pup on a Picnic in CinemaScope...the resulting file was a smidge too large for Send Space, so I used a different free upload site, "We Transfer"....

here's the download link, and don't wait too long, since I didn't pay for it, I think the link expires in 7 days...

https://we.tl/x9ixEU7iYJ

Enjoy!

Oh, and I am prepping the Academy version as well. That may take a few more days before I have time to finish the edit, do the upload, etc. I'll give you all the link when that one is ready.

-Lee

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Einhander
Advanced Member

6 years ago

#14

Okay kids, I've finished dealing with Pup on a Picnic in CinemaScope...the resulting file was a smidge too large for Send Space, so I used a different free upload site, "We Transfer"....

here's the download link, and don't wait too long, since I didn't pay for it, I think the link expires in 7 days...

https://we.tl/x9ixEU7iYJ

Enjoy!

Oh, and I am prepping the Academy version as well. That may take a few more days before I have time to finish the edit, do the upload, etc. I'll give you all the link when that one is ready.

-Lee

Originally Posted by: Lee B

Hey, do you still have the file? Can you re upload it?

Cool_Cat
Advanced Member

6 years ago

#15

I have a 1080p recording from Boomerang UK. They aired it in Cinemascope. Who wants it? LUL

Einhander
Advanced Member

6 years ago

#16

I have a 1080p recording from Boomerang UK. They aired it in Cinemascope. Who wants it? LUL

Originally Posted by: Cool_Cat

I would want it.

Lee B
Advanced Member

6 years ago

#17

Okay kids, I've finished dealing with Pup on a Picnic in CinemaScope...the resulting file was a smidge too large for Send Space, so I used a different free upload site, "We Transfer"....

here's the download link, and don't wait too long, since I didn't pay for it, I think the link expires in 7 days...

https://we.tl/x9ixEU7iYJ

Enjoy!

Oh, and I am prepping the Academy version as well. That may take a few more days before I have time to finish the edit, do the upload, etc. I'll give you all the link when that one is ready.

-Lee

Originally Posted by: Einhander

Hey, do you still have the file? Can you re upload it?

Originally Posted by: Lee B

Wow, I'm sorry...I never saw your request until now. I have re-uploaded the file...here it is:
https://we.tl/JCj5cu9Krt

Again, I didn't pay to store this, so the link is only good for like 7 days from now.

I also have the Academy ratio version as well (the actual one, not just a cropped version of the Scope version), but I need to convert it down to an MP4 and I can't do that until I'm back at work in a couple of days. Does anyone want that version uploaded as well?

Blob55
Advanced Member

6 years ago

#18

Ack! They showed the Spotlight version on TV the other week here. :/ I could tell it was double cropped, because the camera would scan up to look at a facial expression and then back down.

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