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8 months ago
From Warner Archive's Facebook:

COMING TO BLU-RAY FROM THE WARNER ARCHIVE COLLECTION ON MARCH 12th:
LOONEY TUNES COLLECTOR'S CHOICE VOL. 3!
They say the third time's the charm, to which we'll add THREE times the fun and 300 times the laughs! Looney Tunes Collector's Choice Volume 3 provides 25 classic Warner Bros. cartoons, here for the first time on Blu-ray and spanning 30 years (1934-1964), the Golden Age of animation! And with rarities featuring Daffy Duck, Foghorn Leghorn, and Tweety & Sylvester - directed by Warner Bros. cartoon geniuses Chuck Jones, Friz Freleng, Tex Avery and Robert McKimson-this collection is one for the ages. Highlights include some of the first and last original Bugs Bunny shorts; landmark early appearances by Egghead and Elmer, hilarious rarities with Bobo the Elephant and Quentin Quail; and the first color Merrie Melodies short "Honeymoon Hotel".
THE PRESENTATION CONTAINS:
1. A Feud There Was (1938) Elmer Fudd/Egghead-Directed by Tex Avery
2. A Hop, Skip and a Chump (1942)-Directed by Friz Freleng
3. China Jones(1959) Daffy Duck & Porky Pig-Directed by Chuck Jones
4. Cinderella Meets Fella (1938) Egghead-Directed by Tex Avery
5. Dumb Patrol (1964) Bugs Bunny-Directed by Gerry Chiniquy
6. Egghead Rides Again (1937) Egghead-Directed by Tex Avery
7. Elmer’s Pet Rabbit (1941)Bugs Bunny & Elmer Fudd-Directed by Chuck Jones
8. Hobo Bobo (1947) Bobo the Elephant-Directed by Robert McKimson
9. Honeymoon Hotel (1934)-Directed by Earl Duvall
10.I Only Have Eyes For You (1937)-Directed by Tex Avery
11.Mexican Joyride (1947) Daffy Duck-Directed by Arthur Davis
12.Mr.and Mrs. Is The Name (1935) Directed by Friz Freleng
13.Of Rice and Hen (1953) Foghorn Lenghorn-Directed by Robert McKimson
14.Pre-Hysterical Hare (1958) Bugs Bunny-Directed by Robert McKimson
15.Punch Trunk (1953)-Directed by Chuck Jones
16.Quentin Quail (1946) Quentin Quail-Directed by Chuck Jones
17.Riff Raffy Daffy (1948) Daffy Duck & Porky Pig-Directed by Arthur Davis
18.Saddle Silly (1941)-Directed by Chuck Jones
19.Sheep Ahoy (1954) Ralph Wolf & Sam Sheepdog-Directed by Chuck Jones
20.The Mouse on 57th Street, The (1961)-Directed by Chuck Jones
21.The Sheepish Wolf (1942)-Directed by Friz Freleng
22.There Auto Be a Law (1953)-Directed by Robert McKimson
23.Tugboat Granny (1956) Tweety & Sylvester-Directed by Friz Freleng
24.War And Pieces (1964) Wile E. Coyote & Road Runner-Directed by Chuck Jones and Maurice Noble
25.Wet Hare (1962) Bugs Bunny-Directed by Robert McKimson
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S. C. MacPeter
8 months ago
Wow, you beat me by mere seconds to the news! I admit I skipped Volume 2 (for now), but I may buy this one beforehand. Great lineup

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vdubdavid
8 months ago
Gotta give them credit again, they certainly aren't holding back. The last Coyote/Road Runner (before the McKimson/Larriva period) the next to last Bugs Bunny, and more 1930s Merrie Melodies. They're even rolling the dice with 'China Jones' and 'Mexican Joyride'.

Definitely another pickup for me!
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looneylife326
8 months ago
This is an absolutely incredible line-up, and I couldn't be more excited. I've been waiting for restored home media releases of "Of Rice and Hen," "There Auto Be a Law," and "Tugboat Granny" for years, so to see all three of them on one release is a dream come true. And the fact that it's so soon after the release of Collector's Choice Vol. 2 is extremely encouraging.

One thing that I find interesting (not a criticism or a compliment) is that there are four Bugs Bunny shorts here. Both of the previous Collector's Choice releases only had two each, presumably to help spread out the remaining Bugs cartoons for future releases. I wonder why that number got doubled for this one, when they could have added another Tweety or Road Runner. Again, not criticizing anything here - I'm even more excited for this release than I was for volumes 1 or 2!
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ArcLordOne
8 months ago
Probably May instead of March, but exciting!

Here's my blog response:
https://thegoldenageofanimation.blogspot.com/2024/01/looney-tunes-collectors-choice-volume-3.html 
Pete Hale, Cartoonist
https://thegoldenageofanimation.blogspot.com/ 
S. C. MacPeter
8 months ago

Probably May instead of March, but exciting!

Originally Posted by: ArcLordOne 



May you explain why you think this? This seems to be some sort of irrational thinking because of V2's brief delay (in order to fullfill all the pre-orders since more were ordered than expected). Even then, with V2 and the earlier Bugs 80th set, they were only delayed by 2-3 weeks, not 2 months. I imagine WAC might be a bit more prepared this time, but we don't know. What I can say is that if it was two months

I took a look at your blog, which read more like a repeat of the recent news rather than a blog with unique thoughts on the news and some of the shorts. I would've just waited to give deeper thoughts when the set is out
ArcLordOne
8 months ago

Probably May instead of March, but exciting!

Originally Posted by: S. C. MacPeter 



May you explain why you think this? This seems to be some sort of irrational thinking because of V2's brief delay (in order to fullfill all the pre-orders since more were ordered than expected). Even then, with V2 and the earlier Bugs 80th set, they were only delayed by 2-3 weeks, not 2 months. I imagine WAC might be a bit more prepared this time, but we don't know. What I can say is that if it was two months

I took a look at your blog, which read more like a repeat of the recent news rather than a blog with unique thoughts on the news and some of the shorts. I would've just waited to give deeper thoughts when the set is out

Originally Posted by: ArcLordOne 


Why does everyone argue with everything I say on this forum? I wasn't even being negative; I just was saying that that was a realistic timeframe, given that I just thought there'd be a long monthly span, since there were about six or seven between the last two. I'm really excited about the new collection, and people have to go ruin it by engaging in pedantry. And that is the perfect word.

If you don't like my blog...well, sorry I'm no Cartoon Research. Any particular reason you're telling me this?
Pete Hale, Cartoonist
https://thegoldenageofanimation.blogspot.com/ 
S. C. MacPeter
8 months ago
Hey, don't get personal about it. I can be a little too blunt when asking questions and responding to folks on here, so I apologize there, but I ask and state these things in hope that conversations may become more engaging and to learn something period. In this case, I simply asked because your statement was strangely left field without much reasoning, so I felt a need to ask with why I doubt it would happen. But let's see, it could still get delayed by a few weeks

As for your blog (first time reading), I wasn't expecting elaborate articles, but I certainly expected something a little more than something that could've been a social media post. I'm saying this as encouragement to put your own pizazz in your articles, and you'll improve the writeups and gain more readers. I'd say more, but again, don't take what I am saying personally. If you want my full thoughts, I can give them directly in messages, as right now another thread is going off topic
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ArcLordOne
8 months ago

Hey, don't get personal about it. I can be a little too blunt when asking questions and responding to folks on here, so I apologize there, but I ask and state these things in hope that conversations may become more engaging and to learn something period. In this case, I simply asked because your statement was strangely left field without much reasoning, so I felt a need to ask with why I doubt it would happen. But let's see, it could still get delayed by a few weeks

As for your blog (first time reading), I wasn't expecting elaborate articles, but I certainly expected something a little more than something that could've been a social media post. I'm saying this as encouragement to put your own pizazz in your articles, and you'll improve the writeups and gain more readers. I'd say more, but again, don't take what I am saying personally. If you want my full thoughts, I can give them directly in messages, as right now another thread is going off topic

Originally Posted by: S. C. MacPeter 


I just said that because I doubt they'll be doing this so close to the last release. Most likely in May, I think. I'm not being cynical, but I think they like to spread out releases to take advantage of sales--or that's what they should do.

As for my blog, I do longer recaps elsewhere on there, but I didn't have much to say about this release, since it was not a surprise.

Oh yeah, and sorry if I was blunt. I just think this forum gets occasionlly too argumentative, so I'm on edge.
Pete Hale, Cartoonist
https://thegoldenageofanimation.blogspot.com/ 
vdubdavid
8 months ago
Wishful thinking I know, but given we did get 'Cross Country Detours' with its original credit slate restored on the last disc, it would be a lovely surprise if any of the BR reissues here had their full credits restored.

I'm also interested to see how 'Riff Raffy Daffy' is going to look. It was a Cinecolor release and even for a cartoon set at night every copy I have ever seen has looked soft and slighly murky. We might be in for a revelation on the order of 'Catch as Cats Can' on the first collection.
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S. C. MacPeter
8 months ago
I am too. Its possible that it might be stuck in a unique case of only being intact as a master in Cinecolor, but I honestly don't know. It does seem unusual even on the Superstars set for it to look that poor, suggesting that a Cinecolor 35 might be the only element available. I've seen 50s Technicolor prints of the cartoon as well which look pretty much like that release too, suggesting this be a long time issue as well. We'll find it sooner than later, at least....

As for original titles, I've heard that at least one of the BR cartoons exists with titles in unusable shape. Something to find out
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Bobby Bickert
8 months ago
WB should have three-strip Technicolor negatives for their "Cinecolor" cartoons, unless any of them were victims of nitrate decomposition.

Also, I'm surprised that whoever wrote this press release knew that "War and Pieces" was directed by Chuck Jones, since his name isn't in the credits. (But they still don't know the difference between Egghead and "Egghead's brother".)
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ArcLordOne
8 months ago

WB should have three-strip Technicolor negatives for their "Cinecolor" cartoons, unless any of them were victims of nitrate decomposition.

Also, I'm surprised that whoever wrote this press release knew that "War and Pieces" was directed by Chuck Jones, since his name isn't in the credits. (But they still don't know the difference between Egghead and "Egghead's brother".)

Originally Posted by: Bobby Bickert 


Considering that Egghead and Fudd are virtually the same, why anybody bothers to seperate them is a mystery. I don't seperate Happy Rabbit and Bugs.
Pete Hale, Cartoonist
https://thegoldenageofanimation.blogspot.com/ 
S. C. MacPeter
8 months ago
Interesting you point that out. I'm sure the directors didn't care or see them as separate characters, but documentation exists from 1938 indicating Egghead and Elmer (he officially gained the Fudd when Bryan began voicing him) were indeed different characters. Elmer was probably Avery's way or quickly rebranding the Egghead character, although I don't really see it myself. That said, I can't say the same for proto-Bugs and the fully formed Bugs, who was never called Happy Rabbit. By spring 1939, he was Bugs Bunny, the named he is called in the copyright submissions for both HARE EM SCARE EM and ELMER'S CANDID CAMERA
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ArcLordOne
8 months ago

Interesting you point that out. I'm sure the directors didn't care or see them as separate characters, but documentation exists from 1938 indicating Egghead and Elmer (he officially gained the Fudd when Bryan began voicing him) were indeed different characters. Elmer was probably Avery's way or quickly rebranding the Egghead character, although I don't really see it myself. That said, I can't say the same for proto-Bugs and the fully formed Bugs, who was never called Happy Rabbit. By spring 1939, he was Bugs Bunny, the named he is called in the copyright submissions for both HARE EM SCARE EM and ELMER'S CANDID CAMERA
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Originally Posted by: S. C. MacPeter 


Probably so. I guess Screwy Squirrel was Daffy Duck anyway:)
Pete Hale, Cartoonist
https://thegoldenageofanimation.blogspot.com/ 
Bobby Bickert
8 months ago

Interesting you point that out. I'm sure the directors didn't care or see them as separate characters, but documentation exists from 1938 indicating Egghead and Elmer (he officially gained the Fudd when Bryan began voicing him) were indeed different characters. Elmer was probably Avery's way or quickly rebranding the Egghead character, although I don't really see it myself.

Originally Posted by: S. C. MacPeter 



You're forgetting "A Feud There Was".

I think of Egghead and "Egghead's brother" as different characters. Egghead always has wide-open eyes, usually has a full head of black hair in a "bowl" haircut (except in his debut cartoon "Egghead Rides Again"), and is featured prominently in the cartoons he's in like "Daffy Duck and Egghead" and "Count Me Out". "Egghead's brother" always has squinty eyes, is always bald, and pops in and out throughout the cartoons he's in like "A Feud There Was" and "The Isle of Pingo Pongo". ("Now, Boss?") "Egghead's brother" may have evolved into Elmer Fudd, but he's also kind of like a predecessor of the early Droopy. (Compare "Little Red Walking Hood" and "Wild and Woolfy".)

That said, I can't say the same for proto-Bugs and the fully formed Bugs, who was never called Happy Rabbit. By spring 1939, he was Bugs Bunny, the named he is called in the copyright submissions for both HARE EM SCARE EM and ELMER'S CANDID CAMERA.

S. C. MacPeter35920 wrote:



I think "Happy Rabbit" came from an interview with Mel Blanc. He said something like (probably not an exact quote): "They were going to call him the Happy Rabbit and have him say "Hey, what's cookin'?"." Mel Blanc said that he suggested calling the character Bugs Bunny, after Bugs Hardaway. (But Tex did NOT like the name Bugs Bunny. He wanted to call the character Jack Rabbit.)

And I think of the Hardaway/Dalton rabbit and Bugs Bunny as different characters, even though the Hardaway/Dalton rabbit fakes dying and says "Of course you know this means war!" in "Porky's Hare Hunt", and dresses in drag in "Hare-Um Scare-Um".

Sogturtle wrote a great (fictional) story in which the Hardaway/Dalton rabbit and Bugs Bunny are two different characters. After being "replaced" by Bugs Bunny, the Hardaway/Dalton rabbit followed Ben Hardaway to the Lantz studio and became their new star Woody Woodpecker by wearing a costume. (Woody's changes in appearance over the years were explained by the costume wearing out and the replacement costume not being exactly the same.) When the Lantz studio temporarily closed in the late 1940's, the Hardaway/Dalton rabbit worked with Tex at MGM, playing the rabbit in "Doggone Tired" by wearing a (different) rabbit costume over the Woody Woodpecker costume. ("Bugs was proud of me!")

Sogturtle's story also said that Daffy's crazy behavior in his early years was because he was drunk. If Daffy was sober, he was mean. Thus Daffy started drinking less over the years, and was completely sober by the 1960's. And Porky's small amount of screentime in certain cartoons was because he slipped in a puddle of Daffy's vomit and broke a limb. This story may be buried somewhere in the GAC Forums archives.

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S. C. MacPeter
8 months ago
Pre-orders are working now! 
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SuperMuppet64
8 months ago

I am too. Its possible that it might be stuck in a unique case of only being intact as a master in Cinecolor, but I honestly don't know. It does seem unusual even on the Superstars set for it to look that poor, suggesting that a Cinecolor 35 might be the only element available. I've seen 50s Technicolor prints of the cartoon as well which look pretty much like that release too, suggesting this be a long time issue as well. We'll find it sooner than later, at least....

As for original titles, I've heard that at least one of the BR cartoons exists with titles in unusable shape. Something to find out

Originally Posted by: S. C. MacPeter 



what exists and what doesn't is a subject of great interest to me. WACKY WORM and WACKY WILDLIFE both have that contrasty, very nasty look to them (the former seen on cc vol 2) which leaves open what happened to their negatives to the imagination. to add insult to injury RIFF RAFFY DAFFY was done at that point where warner was slapping a LUT to their restorations to provide a quick and dirty color grade, but evidently with what cinecolor was capable of, not much was lost that time. but even if better elements on riff raffy daffy existed, i'd half-expect warner to just cull from a preexisting hd master, in this case the superstars one.
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ArcLordOne
8 months ago

I am too. Its possible that it might be stuck in a unique case of only being intact as a master in Cinecolor, but I honestly don't know. It does seem unusual even on the Superstars set for it to look that poor, suggesting that a Cinecolor 35 might be the only element available. I've seen 50s Technicolor prints of the cartoon as well which look pretty much like that release too, suggesting this be a long time issue as well. We'll find it sooner than later, at least....

As for original titles, I've heard that at least one of the BR cartoons exists with titles in unusable shape. Something to find out

Originally Posted by: SuperMuppet64 



what exists and what doesn't is a subject of great interest to me. WACKY WORM and WACKY WILDLIFE both have that contrasty, very nasty look to them (the former seen on cc vol 2) which leaves open what happened to their negatives to the imagination. to add insult to injury RIFF RAFFY DAFFY was done at that point where warner was slapping a LUT to their restorations to provide a quick and dirty color grade, but evidently with what cinecolor was capable of, not much was lost that time. but even if better elements on riff raffy daffy existed, i'd half-expect warner to just cull from a preexisting hd master, in this case the superstars one.

Originally Posted by: S. C. MacPeter 


Waccky Worm was shocking.
Pete Hale, Cartoonist
https://thegoldenageofanimation.blogspot.com/ 
SuperMuppet64
7 months ago
Thad K. Reviews Looney Tunes: Collector’s Choice Vol. 3 

as i had predicted (to myself) after looking more into the first two sets, i correctly snuffed out MEXICAN JOYRIDE and RIFF RAFFY DAFFY would be the two newly-restored cartoons of this volume. also included (as mentioned in the review) are some corrections to previously-existing booboos on the hbo max masters (but not on all of them) and at least one newly-restored original title sequence.

This cartoon, released in Cinecolor, has looked particularly horrible in every version I’ve ever seen (even the IB Technicolor rental prints look bad) and has been in long need of a reprieve. We got our answer why it’s always looked so bad during the production of this release: the original separation exposure negatives (Cinecolor only made the release prints and Warners was still timing these for Technicolor, as illustrated by the restorations of other Cinecolor releases) are actually missing (but still being searched for). There’s evidence that the materials went missing as far back as the mid-1960s. Extra care was taken to make a new version from the studio vault Super Cinecolor 35mm print look nicer than I’ve ever seen this cartoon, but it still unavoidably looks softer than the other cartoons sourced from the negs here.

Thad Komorowski wrote:


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here's a comparison between the old (left) and new (right) masters for RIFF RAFFY DAFFY. significant improvement
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