Jerry Beck on Stu's Show - 12/18/19- Page 4 - Forum.
Mesterius
2019-12-22T02:45:49Z
Originally Posted by: Ken Layton 

I'm thinking it could be the censored 11?



Oh, I'd love for that to happen... but I can't imagine that's really it. And again, why mention that the "television versions" of the cartoons will not be included if that's the case?
fulano7
2019-12-22T03:17:21Z
It sounds like he's talking about a TV show. Perhaps a Hanna-Barbera, Filmation... Any non-theatrical series for which there is one version for syndication and one archived, never-broadcasted version...
I always come to TTTP in Exile in the hope of finding news about Warner announcing Tex Avery Collection.
2019-12-22T23:06:35Z
Originally Posted by: Leviathan 

Go comprehensive and chronological or go home.



Here, here. For Looney Tunes the whole thing is the only thing that makes sense at this point. And with HBO Max I imagine they'd want to stick all the MM/LTs on there, or at least have the whole library restored in HD for rotation on the service. I'd love to believe that's why those 12 were being restored. And then they can throw us a 40-disc BD release like scraps. [-o<

WaltWiz1901
2019-12-23T19:43:35Z
Originally Posted by: Traveling Matt 

Originally Posted by: Leviathan 

Go comprehensive and chronological or go home.



Here, here. For Looney Tunes the whole thing is the only thing that makes sense at this point. And with HBO Max I imagine they'd want to stick all the MM/LTs on there, or at least have the whole library restored in HD for rotation on the service. I'd love to believe that's why those 12 were being restored. And then they can throw us a 40-disc BD release like scraps. [-o<


If they're going to do a chronological release, wouldn't it be better (and more realistic) if they released two or three-disc volumes featuring every short issued during two or three theatrical seasons? They don't even need to be strictly chronological, either; they could pair every 1935 short with every 1945 or 1955 short, for example.
Originally Posted by: fulano7 

It sounds like he's talking about a TV show. Perhaps a Hanna-Barbera, Filmation... Any non-theatrical series for which there is one version for syndication and one archived, never-broadcasted version...


The thing is, Beck said that the versions being released weren't the television versions and that the upcoming set was a classic animation release. Those are sure-fire signs that he's hinting that a theatrical animation release is coming, aren't they?
tashlinfan44
2019-12-23T19:54:41Z
I don’t think that we were supposed to be this confused on what release is coming. How about one of us emails Jerry and asks him to clarify what he means when he says that this release doesn’t use the television versions?
2019-12-23T21:37:30Z
Originally Posted by: WaltWiz1901 

If they're going to do a chronological release, wouldn't it be better (and more realistic) if they released two or three-disc volumes featuring every short issued during two or three theatrical seasons? They don't even need to be strictly chronological, either; they could pair every 1935 short with every 1945 or 1955 short, for example.


Volumes might be better for WB in the short term as they don't do anything that doesn't justify an immediate return - clearly - but I think long term it would be risky. Popeye and Tom & Jerry are one thing because there's a reasonable number of shorts, but there are far too many Looney Tunes to meet WB's expectations by doing volumes. I don't think trying different configurations can get around that. And the lack of new collector releases of any kind suggests they don't have a better solution either.

And they need this stuff in HD so it's going to happen eventually. They should just do it and be done with it.
mellongraig93
2019-12-31T18:21:11Z
By the way, the e-mails will stay in the show based on viewer/listener feedback. So the next show when he comes back on March 18, we'll hear from the listeners and viewers once again.
Kristjan
2020-01-02T05:31:18Z
Originally Posted by: WaltWiz1901 

Originally Posted by: Traveling Matt 

Originally Posted by: Leviathan 

Go comprehensive and chronological or go home.



Here, here. For Looney Tunes the whole thing is the only thing that makes sense at this point. And with HBO Max I imagine they'd want to stick all the MM/LTs on there, or at least have the whole library restored in HD for rotation on the service. I'd love to believe that's why those 12 were being restored. And then they can throw us a 40-disc BD release like scraps. [-o<


If they're going to do a chronological release, wouldn't it be better (and more realistic) if they released two or three-disc volumes featuring every short issued during two or three theatrical seasons? They don't even need to be strictly chronological, either; they could pair every 1935 short with every 1945 or 1955 short, for example.
Originally Posted by: fulano7 

It sounds like he's talking about a TV show. Perhaps a Hanna-Barbera, Filmation... Any non-theatrical series for which there is one version for syndication and one archived, never-broadcasted version...


The thing is, Beck said that the versions being released weren't the television versions and that the upcoming set was a classic animation release. Those are sure-fire signs that he's hinting that a theatrical animation release is comimg, aren't they?



My guess would be that since its not Popeye (i'm fine with a litttle break btw)
Not Tex
I suspect its eather Looney Tunes or all the none Tex Avery and None Tom and Jerry MGM shorts.
nickramer
2020-01-02T14:12:59Z
Originally Posted by: Kristjan 

What Disney film is on blu-ray that Jerry said is bad on there but good on Disney+



The Sword in the Stone.
Mesterius
2020-01-03T08:29:35Z
Originally Posted by: Kristjan 

My guess would be that since its not Popeye (i'm fine with a litttle break btw)
Not Tex
I suspect its eather Looney Tunes or all the none Tex Avery and None Tom and Jerry MGM shorts.



If they aren't doing Tex Avery, there's no chance they're doing the Happy Harmonies or other lesser-known MGM shorts.
Leviathan
2020-01-03T21:36:53Z
I do love how we're not allowed to know what this exciting new WAC release is... Less than two months before it hits.

For all the hype, it had better be the best goddamn clasdic cartoon release EVER.
Mesterius
2020-01-06T20:02:39Z
A new Facebook comment by Jerry Beck  teases the set again: "We have something special coming out next month (shhhhh)...".

I kind of agree with what others here are saying: it is a bit odd that we can't know what this set will contain when it's only a month until it comes out.
Leviathan
2020-01-06T20:31:34Z
Your post is unavailable.
Again, it better be fucking jaw dropping. I mean the most amazing announcement ever.

If it is a single disc of random cartoons or a Hanna Barbera show, I'm out.
Mesterius
2020-01-06T20:42:23Z
Originally Posted by: Leviathan 

Your post is unavailable.
Again, it better be fucking jaw dropping. I mean the most amazing announcement ever.

If it is a single disc of random cartoons or a Hanna Barbera show, I'm out.



Unavailable? I just checked the link now; it works fine on my end. And the Facebook group is public.

Anyway, I also posted Jerry's comment in full over here  if Facebook still doesn't work for you.
WaltWiz1901
2020-01-06T21:25:40Z
Originally Posted by: Mesterius 

A new Facebook comment by Jerry Beck  teases the set again: "We have something special coming out next month (shhhhh)...".

I kind of agree with what others here are saying: it is a bit odd that we can't know what this set will contain when it's only a month until it comes out.


Warner Archive's February slate announcement is a few weeks (or days, even) away. We don't even have that long to wait anymore, as opposed to nearly an entire year of nondescript teases...
Originally Posted by: Leviathan 

Again, it better be fucking jaw dropping. I mean the most amazing announcement ever.

If it is a single disc of random cartoons or a Hanna Barbera show, I'm out.


Unfortunately, giving Warner Archive's rather lowly track record (at least they're not the Disney Movie Club), I doubt they'd go above and beyond to give us a super grand set on par with what Warner Home Video proper offered less than two decades ago - and what Criterion is still doing today. It would be cool if they did, though!
SuperMuppet64
2020-01-06T22:15:03Z
Originally Posted by: Leviathan 

Again, it better be fucking jaw dropping. I mean the most amazing announcement ever.

If it is a single disc of random cartoons or a Hanna Barbera show, I'm out.



you are essentially preparing yourself to be disappointed
2020-01-06T22:15:08Z
Originally Posted by: Mesterius 

Originally Posted by: Leviathan 

Your post is unavailable.
Again, it better be fucking jaw dropping. I mean the most amazing announcement ever.

If it is a single disc of random cartoons or a Hanna Barbera show, I'm out.



Unavailable? I just checked the link now; it works fine on my end. And the Facebook group is public.

Anyway, I also posted Jerry's comment in full over here  if Facebook still doesn't work for you.



I appreciate Jerry's candor in discussing Porky 101, and kudos to him for unlocking the vaults as best as he could at the time, but I agree with Leviathan's trepidation on the future. We'll see how things go. It's a little surprising he thought unrestored cartoons through WAC would be acceptable to enough of the base, especially without casual fans to help balance the sales, but again maybe that's part of the politics he had to deal with.

Quote:

My personal thing is making complete public access to all the classic cartoons still locked in studio vaults. All the studios. This is what I’ve spent half my life doing.



This is wonderful and I truly want it to happen, especially for Looney Tunes, but let's face it. The other half of Jerry's life will be over before he gets them completed in volumes.

Jason Todd
2020-01-06T23:58:12Z
Originally Posted by: Traveling Matt 

The other half of Jerry's life will be over before he gets them completed in volumes.



He’s right...

With that in mind, we have two choices here: we can either allow ourselves to languish in our disappointment and spend our lives being depressed about it, OR we can get off of our nerdy, nitpicky, largely unattractive asses and pick up the slack. Some members are doing that—thank you, whomever came across that 35mm print of Casanova Cat with its original titles and took it upon themselves to actually scan and restore it—but we’re obviously gonna need to do more than that if we expect to be satisfied.
nickramer
2020-01-07T04:46:49Z
Aren't some of you guys over-reacting just a tad bit? It's things like this that sometimes make me NOT miss the TTTP days.
Kristjan
2020-01-07T09:31:51Z
Originally Posted by: Leviathan 

Your post is unavailable.
Again, it better be fucking jaw dropping. I mean the most amazing announcement ever.

If it is a single disc of random cartoons or a Hanna Barbera show, I'm out.



I agree about Hanna-Barbera with three expectations: The remaining seasons of Huckleberry Hound Show or the Entry Quick Draw McGraw Show or Ruff and Ready Show I will buy those anything else I won't.

But as for single random disc that's of course big no, unless its censored 11 or they have ensured every single cartoon is not the previous release.
But if they do them chronology they will end up with bunch of previously released ones then it better be at least 5 disc set.