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Poll Question : Which animation-related sets would you be excited for if they were released?
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  Mickey Mouse: The Black & White Years
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  Mickey Mouse: The Color Collection
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  The Chronological Donald Duck (three volumes)
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  The Complete Goofy
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  The Complete Pluto
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  Silly Symphonies
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  The Oswald the Lucky Rabbit Collection
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  Walt Disney Rarities
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  Alice in Cartoonland
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  All of the above
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  Total 10 100%
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#21 Posted : Thursday, December 7, 2017 5:17:23 AM(UTC)
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I feel Dave Bossert should do a few commentaries, perhaps for the Oswald shorts.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, December 7, 2017 5:46:25 AM(UTC)
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I feel Dave Bossert should do a few commentaries, perhaps for the Oswald shorts.

Dave Bossert is definitely going to be involved with Oswald, as one of the shorts listed in the commentary section, Empty Socks, features a commentary by him and the booklet is half-written by him.

As for original titles, many shorts that did not include them on the Treasures will retain them here. Can anyone here give me some ideas to use or locate original titles for these sets?
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#23 Posted : Thursday, December 7, 2017 5:57:25 AM(UTC)
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As for original titles, many shorts that did not include them on the Treasures will retain them here. Can anyone here give me some ideas to use or locate original titles for these sets?


This person called Erik has a channel with plenty of original and alternate titles for Disney shorts.
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#24 Posted : Thursday, December 7, 2017 8:17:53 AM(UTC)
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As for original titles, many shorts that did not include them on the Treasures will retain them here. Can anyone here give me some ideas to use or locate original titles for these sets?


This person called Erik has a channel with plenty of original and alternate titles for Disney shorts.

Neat! Those are pretty good candidates for inclusion in the sets.

What other bonus features could be included that I haven't thought of yet?
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#25 Posted : Monday, January 8, 2018 8:19:44 AM(UTC)
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Gosh, it's been quite some time since I told you all about this idea. (With the 90th anniversary of Mickey Mouse coming up very soon, it's almost time something like this gets discussed further or, better yet, gets planned at the actual Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment later this year!)

Anyways, I've been thinking about what to do with the Legacy Collection (namely, promoting it and making consumers more aware of it). While the Treasures were barely advertised at all (the first wave of those got a promo on some Disney DVDs, but that's the only thing I can recall about that), the advertising for the Legacy sets needs to improve, and there's only a couple of things I could think about that topic (maybe a promo, but that's it).

What advertising could the Legacy Collection have?
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#26 Posted : Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:20:29 AM(UTC)
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I like the ideas! Since we're dreaming here, what would make these make-believe sets perfect, for me, wouldn't be the inclusion of recreated titles (I'd rather see reissue titles if the originals don't exist), however, there would be a hugely expensive and exhaustive world-wide search for prints in collections, archives and museums and around the world to find even the tiniest pieces of lost footage. Also there wouldn't just be commentaries by the top experts, the sets would be overseen by them to ensure they're as perfect as possible. In my world, the sets wouldn't be seen as just a commercial release, but a way of sharing the results of a major research and restoration effort.

Some extras I would like to see and hear would be:
• Vintage contemporary records and song recordings featuring songs and characters from the cartoons or songs that were just about the characters.
• Deleted scenes and alternate versions (such as the original ending to "The Night Before Christmas", the extra scenes in "The Wise Little Hen", the alternate version of "The Castaway").
• Alternate titles including foreign versions and some home movie prints.
• Unfinished cartoons, perhaps presented as storyboards and using the current voice talent performing the characters.
• Documentaries relating to specific years and characters which look not just at the animated cartoons, but how the the characters were being used in other media such as in comics books and radio.
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:50:13 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mac Go to Quoted Post
I like the ideas! Since we're dreaming here, what would make these make-believe sets perfect, for me, wouldn't be the inclusion of recreated titles (I'd rather see reissue titles if the originals don't exist), however, there would be a hugely expensive and exhaustive world-wide search for prints in collections, archives and museums and around the world to find even the tiniest pieces of lost footage. Also there wouldn't just be commentaries by the top experts, the sets would be overseen by them to ensure they're as perfect as possible. In my world, the sets wouldn't be seen as just a commercial release, but a way of sharing the results of a major research and restoration effort.

Some extras I would like to see and hear would be:
• Vintage contemporary records and song recordings featuring songs and characters from the cartoons or songs that were just about the characters.
Deleted scenes and alternate versions (such as the original ending to "The Night Before Christmas", the extra scenes in "The Wise Little Hen", the alternate version of "The Castaway").
Alternate titles including foreign versions and some home movie prints.
Unfinished cartoons, perhaps presented as storyboards and using the current voice talent performing the characters.
• Documentaries relating to specific years and characters which look not just at the animated cartoons, but how the the characters were being used in other media such as in comics books and radio.

Although I can see why you don't like recreated titles (they do, however, better reflect the time and era the body of the short was made), many of them will either be included as bonuses or, if easy to figure out, be placed onto the main short (the reissues, where necessary, will be among the "alternate titles" you listed).

About the restored missing scenes and reconstructions of unfinished cartoons, I was absolutely thinking about those when compiling each set!
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It's true, fake titles better evoke the period of the orginals, but I hate the confusion that re-created titles create, especially when there are so many surprises to be found in original release prints. I guess a good compromise would be to include fake titles, but mention which ones in the booklet!

Also, a massive thank you to PopKorn Kat for posting the link to Erik's YouTube channel. What excellent research and generous sharing. I love how thorough the information is about what print the footage comes from etc. My favourite discoveries I've seen and heard on the page so far are 'Mickey's Steam-Roller' with the original music and 'Trick or Treat' with the animated title card and the more atmospheric feel as the camera pans from title to title (revealing more details in the background).
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#29 Posted : Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:36:51 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mac Go to Quoted Post
It's true, fake titles better evoke the period of the orginals, but I hate the confusion that re-created titles create, especially when there are so many surprises to be found in original release prints. I guess a good compromise would be to include fake titles, but mention which ones in the booklet!

Also, a massive thank you to PopKorn Kat for posting the link to Erik's YouTube channel. What excellent research and generous sharing. I love how thorough the information is about what print the footage comes from etc. My favourite discoveries I've seen and heard on the page so far are 'Mickey's Steam-Roller' with the original music and 'Trick or Treat' with the animated title card and the more atmospheric feel as the camera pans from title to title (revealing more details in the background).

That, of course, would be a great compromise. (Another compromise would be to splice the existing original titles, like those that have been shared and recently found, onto the current scans in circulation at the studio, which are, predictably, taken from the more accessible reissue prints)

I can see why there's so much confusion about how accurate fake title sequences are. While making one may be fine for when the real original is lost and can otherwise be easily recreated, there are also many cases where the results turn out to be incredibly wrong, especially with the information that we have received in recent years and the carelessness of the current restoration team at the Walt Disney Company.
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