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#61 Posted : Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:26:13 AM(UTC)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv_akAoV90A

Real theatrical title is 'A Raisin and a Cake of Yeast'. Released on the 4th of February, 1923. I can only recognize a few key animators. List of animators by scenes, transitional scenes and static drawings, by pure guesswork:
Hugh Shields, ? [static drawing], Hugh Shields, Frank Moser, ?, Frank Moser?, ?, ?, ?, Frank Moser?, ?, Vet Anderson?, ?, John Foster, Vet Anderson?, Hugh Shields, Frank Moser, Frank Moser [static drawing], [transition], ?, ?, Frank Moser?, [transition], ?, ?, Frank Moser, ?, ?, ?, Jerry Shields?, Frank Moser?, ?, John Foster?, ?, [transition], Frank Moser.

? marks animators who I can't or exactly identify. Perhaps Milt Gross did animate this short; Norman Ferguson did not come until later, I believe, and perhaps Vet Anderson as well, so that may be another mistake on my part.
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#62 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2018 2:38:39 AM(UTC)
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The curtain sequences and most of the other extra animation in the 'Minnie's Yoo Hoo' reel are all done by the animator(s) who did the first few scenes in 'Fiddling Around', where Mickey walks to the stage, drops on the floor and prepares his fiddle.

In fact, several backgrounds are very similar to those used in 'Fiddling Around', and the reel is early enough in the Columbia era to where the end card still uses the prototype Mickey and Minnie designs and the "A Walt Disney Comic" byline.

Does anyone know said animator(s)? My knowledge on Disney material is not extensive.

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#63 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:05:32 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kazblox Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: OutOfOdor Go to Quoted Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv_akAoV90A

Real theatrical title is 'A Raisin and a Cake of Yeast'. Released on the 4th of February, 1923. I can only recognize a few key animators. List of animators by scenes, transitional scenes and static drawings, by pure guesswork:
Hugh Shields, ? [static drawing], Hugh Shields, Frank Moser, ?, Frank Moser?, ?, ?, ?, Frank Moser?, ?, Vet Anderson?, ?, John Foster, Vet Anderson?, Hugh Shields, Frank Moser, Frank Moser [static drawing], [transition], ?, ?, Frank Moser?, [transition], ?, ?, Frank Moser, ?, ?, ?, Jerry Shields?, Frank Moser?, ?, John Foster?, ?, [transition], Frank Moser.

? marks animators who I can't or exactly identify. Perhaps Milt Gross did animate this short; Norman Ferguson did not come until later, I believe, and perhaps Vet Anderson as well, so that may be another mistake on my part.


Thanks, kazblox!

By the way, does anyone here know who did what on "The Dover Boys"? I know, besides Bobe Cannon; Ken Harris and Rudy Larriva did work on that cartoon, but outside of one scene by Harris and Cannon each, not sure who did what scene.
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#64 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:52:08 AM(UTC)
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Here are a few scenes of Disney Renaissance features that I know the animators for:

The Little Mermaid: will Finn animated a few shots of Ariel and Sebastian during the "Under the Sea" number, when Sebastian bounces off Ariel's tail fin like a diving board.

Beauty and the Beast: James Baxter and Rick Farmiloe worked together on a scene at the end of the "Belle" opening, when the townsfolk stop singing and go along their way just as Belle turns her head back. Aaron Blaise did one scene of the Beast leaning into the camera ("Then he shouldn't have trespassed here!").

Aladdin: Tom Sito animated the scene of the Genie rolling up his "sleeves" as he turns Aladdin into Prince Ali ("...but we're not through yet! Hang onto your turban, kid!").
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#65 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:40:32 AM(UTC)
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This might seem like a tricky task , but can anyone spot any specific animators' work here? Someone on YouTube claimed that Ed Aardal, Cal Dalton, Rudy Cataldi, Lloyd Vaughan and Don Williams animated here, but since that was just a comment on YouTube (and not one from someone like Jerry Beck or Yowp or Tommy Stathes or another reputable person), I'm taking it with a grain of salt.

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#66 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:25:57 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kazblox Go to Quoted Post
The curtain sequences and most of the other extra animation in the 'Minnie's Yoo Hoo' reel are all done by the animator(s) who did the first few scenes in 'Fiddling Around', where Mickey walks to the stage, drops on the floor and prepares his fiddle.

He can also be seen animating the opening scene of 'The Haunted House' when Mickey tries to shield himself using his umbrella in the rain. He also animates Mickey singing in the opening scene of 'Wild Waves', including the scene of Minnie stepping out of the bath house. He may also have animated the scene in 'Jungle Rhythm' where two lions circulate Mickey in a static pose.

The other animator in the 'Minnie's Yoo Hoo' club reel may have possibly worked on 'The Jazz Fool'. Similar eye, ear and torso portioning.
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'The Jazz Fool', and 'Minnie's Yoo Hoo'.


None of these animators appear to be present in any further Disney titles; they may have moved onto Iwerks' studio, or Universal's for that matter. None of Harman/Ising's first output is similar to these animators.

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#67 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:24:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: OutOfOdor Go to Quoted Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfE5HpA-EtM
This might seem like a tricky task , but can anyone spot any specific animators' work here? Someone on YouTube claimed that Ed Aardal, Cal Dalton, Rudy Cataldi, Lloyd Vaughan and Don Williams animated here, but since that was just a comment on YouTube (and not one from someone like Jerry Beck or Yowp or Tommy Stathes or another reputable person), I'm taking it with a grain of salt.


It's currently not available..
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#68 Posted : Friday, November 2, 2018 6:50:44 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pokey J.Anti-Blockhead Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: OutOfOdor Go to Quoted Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfE5HpA-EtM
This might seem like a tricky task , but can anyone spot any specific animators' work here? Someone on YouTube claimed that Ed Aardal, Cal Dalton, Rudy Cataldi, Lloyd Vaughan and Don Williams animated here, but since that was just a comment on YouTube (and not one from someone like Jerry Beck or Yowp or Tommy Stathes or another reputable person), I'm taking it with a grain of salt.


It's currently not available..


Yeah, the owner made it so you can't have it playback. However, you can still watch it if you press play and then click "Watch this video on YouTube".
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#69 Posted : Sunday, November 4, 2018 9:02:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kazblox Go to Quoted Post

None of these animators appear to be present in any further Disney titles; they may have moved onto Iwerks' studio, or Universal's for that matter. None of Harman/Ising's first output is similar to these animators.

Actually, I might be wrong; the first animator I mentioned above might have done work for 'The Cactus Kid'.
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Speaking of 'The Cactus Kid', can anyone help me spot where Ub Iwerks does the animation? Can't appear to find any single clue, not sure if it's a myth or he did actually do one last Mickey title in 1930 before going on to make 'Fiddlesticks'.

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#70 Posted : Monday, November 5, 2018 12:31:56 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kazblox Go to Quoted Post
Speaking of 'The Cactus Kid', can anyone help me spot where Ub Iwerks does the animation? Can't appear to find any single clue, not sure if it's a myth or he did actually do one last Mickey title in 1930 before going on to make 'Fiddlesticks'.


I'm think it may be the scene where Mickey plays music on the furniture with spoons, given the way Mickey's fists are drawn.
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#71 Posted : Monday, November 5, 2018 2:17:45 AM(UTC)
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Speaking of 'The Cactus Kid', can anyone help me spot where Ub Iwerks does the animation? Can't appear to find any single clue, not sure if it's a myth or he did actually do one last Mickey title in 1930 before going on to make 'Fiddlesticks'.

I'm think it may be the scene where Mickey plays music on the furniture with spoons, given the way Mickey's fists are drawn.

Mickey's head proportions are way off and too tiny in that scene. For reference, here's what I think is a Ub Iwerks scene from 'The Jazz Fool'. The fists may mean something, but pay attention to how Ub draws Mickey here:
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'The Jazz Fool'; Ub Iwerks scene(?)

As I am heading to a conclusion, I'm probably going to assume that the scene where Minnie licks her finger is probably animated by Iwerks himself. Jack King also works on 'The Cactus Kid' in some scenes where Mickey dances and avoids the dishes hitting him.

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#72 Posted : Monday, November 5, 2018 11:09:04 AM(UTC)
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Also going to make a vivid, educational guess that Ub Iwerks drew the main opening title card that would go on for all Columbia Pictures era titles. The end title card is however, by a completely different animator; one I have yet to identify, but may have worked on the third to last scene in 'Mickey's Follies'.

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#73 Posted : Monday, November 5, 2018 7:23:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kazblox Go to Quoted Post
Also going to make a vivid, educational guess that Ub Iwerks drew the main opening title card that would go on for all Columbia Pictures era titles. The end title card is however, by a completely different animator; one I have yet to identify, but may have worked on the third to last scene in 'Mickey's Follies'.


I think that Mickey end card illustration may have been drawn by Ben Sharpsteen, since he drew mouths curved toward the cheek.
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#74 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2018 11:10:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kazblox Go to Quoted Post
Also going to make a vivid, educational guess that Ub Iwerks drew the main opening title card that would go on for all Columbia Pictures era titles.

Or, this is more likely; it could be Win Smith that drew it. Here's a sample of his pencil work after Iwerks left the studio and before Gottfredson stepped in for the Mickey Mouse comic strip.
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#75 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:06:26 AM(UTC)
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The only draft I could find for 'The Cactus Kid' has artists all blank. Great!
https://www.liveauctione...ipts-1930s-disney-shorts
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#76 Posted : Thursday, November 8, 2018 10:07:10 AM(UTC)
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The only draft I could find for 'The Cactus Kid' has artists all blank. Great!
https://www.liveauctione...ipts-1930s-disney-shorts


Best case scenario would be for the information to turn up in exposure sheets. Otherwise, zilch.
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