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LuckyToon  
#381 Posted : Monday, November 20, 2017 2:27:58 PM(UTC)
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WOW, I'm surprised that the international Disney VHS tapes from the 80's also have cartoons with the original titles!

I thank Erik for uploading them on YouTube.
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#382 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:42:41 AM(UTC)
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So Pluto's Quin-Puplets was always referred to as a "Pluto the Pup" cartoon. That's a neat find.

On a somewhat unrelated note, is the "original" title card on the Disney Wiki article on Don Donald a legitimate original? I have no idea myself, but it does look surprisingly real.
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#383 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2017 6:01:13 AM(UTC)
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On a somewhat unrelated note, is the "original" title card on the Disney Wiki article on Don Donald a legitimate original? I have no idea myself, but it does look surprisingly real.


Doesn't look real to me. The original title card was in a YouTube video posted in one of these threads a while back by davespeanuts (I think?), but it has since been blocked by Disney, and sadly, I did not save it. The poster of that title card also posted a lot of questionable information on the Looney Tunes Wiki on Wikia and we blocked them for that (I'm one of the admins; I'm "Krazy Rabbit"), so I doubt this is real.
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#384 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2017 6:18:04 AM(UTC)
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On a somewhat unrelated note, is the "original" title card on the Disney Wiki article on Don Donald a legitimate original? I have no idea myself, but it does look surprisingly real.


Doesn't look real to me. The original title card was in a YouTube video posted in one of these threads a while back by davespeanuts (I think?), but it has since been blocked by Disney, and sadly, I did not save it. The poster of that title card also posted a lot of questionable information on the Looney Tunes Wiki on Wikia and we blocked them for that (I'm one of the admins; I'm "Krazy Rabbit"), so I doubt this is real.


I remember seeing a black-and-white print of the short on YouTube (Don't know if it's still there) with a title card reading "Presenting Donald Duck in DON DONALD", which I believe was the original title and implies that it had the Mickey opening.
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#385 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2017 6:24:22 AM(UTC)
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On a somewhat unrelated note, is the "original" title card on the Disney Wiki article on Don Donald a legitimate original? I have no idea myself, but it does look surprisingly real.


Doesn't look real to me. The original title card was in a YouTube video posted in one of these threads a while back by davespeanuts (I think?), but it has since been blocked by Disney, and sadly, I did not save it. The poster of that title card also posted a lot of questionable information on the Looney Tunes Wiki on Wikia and we blocked them for that (I'm one of the admins; I'm "Krazy Rabbit"), so I doubt this is real.


I remember seeing a black-and-white print of the short on YouTube (Don't know if it's still there) with a title card reading "Presenting Donald Duck in DON DONALD", which I believe was the original title and implies that it had the Mickey opening.


^Yup, that's the one I saw.

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#386 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2017 7:20:37 AM(UTC)
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On a somewhat unrelated note, is the "original" title card on the Disney Wiki article on Don Donald a legitimate original? I have no idea myself, but it does look surprisingly real.


Doesn't look real to me. The original title card was in a YouTube video posted in one of these threads a while back by davespeanuts (I think?), but it has since been blocked by Disney, and sadly, I did not save it. The poster of that title card also posted a lot of questionable information on the Looney Tunes Wiki on Wikia and we blocked them for that (I'm one of the admins; I'm "Krazy Rabbit"), so I doubt this is real.


I remember seeing a black-and-white print of the short on YouTube (Don't know if it's still there) with a title card reading "Presenting Donald Duck in DON DONALD", which I believe was the original title and implies that it had the Mickey opening.


^Yup, that's the one I saw.

Apparently, according to what you two are explaining, the wiki is wrong........again.

Similarly, I recently decided to edit articles on the Disney Wiki, and on some of the articles I saw, Clock Cleaners was said to have its original titles reinstated. However, the picture usually associated to this thought is not a legit title card; instead, what most of us are seeing is what David Gerstein agreed to Vdubdavid's guess on what the card looked like:
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It looks more like a screengrab of a background with a photoshopped title.

Judging by the various original title discoveries I'm making today on this thread of all places, it becomes more and more obvious that Theo Gluck's restoration team needs to pay more attention to our research instead of guessing what the title cards originally looked like......and so does the wiki. Once, the original title card to The Fire Fighters was put up, and it didn't take long for the wiki to (ignorantly) delete it and replace it with the gaudy fake titles from the LaserDisc and DVD versions.
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#387 Posted : Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:23:19 AM(UTC)
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Bizarre 1923 animated short featuring Felix the Cat and...is that Koko the Clown? It mostly features Felix painting silhouettes performing various tasks while smoking pipes. Commercial?
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#388 Posted : Wednesday, December 20, 2017 2:37:51 AM(UTC)
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Today I just discovered that a YouTube channel called "The Scene" has uploaded a ton of Lantz Oswalds that weren't previously online:

There are several downsides. They all have this texture overlay on them and they're also stretched to widescreen. They're also watermarked, but unfortunately these are the only copies I've found.

Milton Knight also uploaded "The Playful Pup", a Lantz Oswald that didn't have screenshots on the Lantz-O-Pedia:

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#389 Posted : Thursday, December 21, 2017 12:53:48 PM(UTC)
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Just in time for the holidays, here's a 1996 ad for Target with Sylvester and Tweety:

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#390 Posted : Tuesday, January 9, 2018 6:27:54 AM(UTC)
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Original titles for Building a Building, with exploding Mickey headshot.



Original titles for Mickey's Steam-Roller with original music cues.

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#391 Posted : Tuesday, January 9, 2018 6:34:16 AM(UTC)
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Original titles for Building a Building, with exploding Mickey headshot.



Original titles for Mickey's Steam-Roller with original music cues.


Cool! I always love it when we find the actual original title cards to these shorts after years of seeing barely-accurate facsimiles.
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#392 Posted : Sunday, January 21, 2018 12:38:14 AM(UTC)
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Original titles for Camping Out. Or should I say – Camping Troubles.

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#393 Posted : Sunday, January 21, 2018 7:33:02 AM(UTC)
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Original titles for Camping Out. Or should I say – Camping Troubles.


Let me get this straight - now there's another short with an alternate title (we already know Fiddling Around was apparently about to be - and in later releases, was - titled Just Mickey)?

All this time, all of us were unaware that the more common title was one from some sort of reissue...
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#394 Posted : Tuesday, January 23, 2018 1:05:47 AM(UTC)
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Original titles for Camping Out. Or should I say – Camping Troubles.



I wonder if Gerstein was already aware of this fact.

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#395 Posted : Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:41:27 AM(UTC)
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Original titles for Camping Out. Or should I say – Camping Troubles.



I wonder if Gerstein was already aware of this fact.


Check out the latest comment on that video ;)

"I believe CAMPING TROUBLES was its release title outside the United States; I've seen three otherwise identical original UA main title cards that read CAMPING OUT, CAMPING TROUBLES, and a French episode title."

I saw a 16mm print on eBay UK with the CAMPING TROUBLES titles about a month or 2 ago, heck perhaps Erik was the winner of that auction!
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#396 Posted : Tuesday, January 23, 2018 7:55:35 AM(UTC)
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Original titles for Camping Out. Or should I say – Camping Troubles.



I wonder if Gerstein was already aware of this fact.


Check out the latest comment on that video ;)

"I believe CAMPING TROUBLES was its release title outside the United States; I've seen three otherwise identical original UA main title cards that read CAMPING OUT, CAMPING TROUBLES, and a French episode title."

I saw a 16mm print on eBay UK with the CAMPING TROUBLES titles about a month or 2 ago, heck perhaps Erik was the winner of that auction!

Interesting........

Immediately after finding the original post, I went to the Disney Wiki and renamed their article on the short (they barely take much notice to how many original titles are found, so they just lazily keep up the reissue and, if otherwise, gaudy recreated titles as the pictures for numerous shorts' title cards) to reflect this discovery. If the original poster for the short exists, what title does it have on it; Camping Out or Camping Troubles?
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#397 Posted : Tuesday, January 23, 2018 5:39:41 PM(UTC)
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Original titles for Camping Out. Or should I say – Camping Troubles.



I wonder if Gerstein was already aware of this fact.


Check out the latest comment on that video ;)

"I believe CAMPING TROUBLES was its release title outside the United States; I've seen three otherwise identical original UA main title cards that read CAMPING OUT, CAMPING TROUBLES, and a French episode title."

I saw a 16mm print on eBay UK with the CAMPING TROUBLES titles about a month or 2 ago, heck perhaps Erik was the winner of that auction!

Interesting........

Immediately after finding the original post, I went to the Disney Wiki and renamed their article on the short (they barely take much notice to how many original titles are found, so they just lazily keep up the reissue and, if otherwise, gaudy recreated titles as the pictures for numerous shorts' title cards) to reflect this discovery. If the original poster for the short exists, what title does it have on it; Camping Out or Camping Troubles?


Even this can pose a problem as far as evidence goes, though. If you find a poster online with either of those titles, you'll also need to determine if it's an American or British poster.
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#398 Posted : Monday, February 26, 2018 11:08:47 PM(UTC)
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Proof ANYTHING can go with Winston Sharples' score to ALONG CAME A DUCK... Mickey Mouse

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#399 Posted : Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:19:26 AM(UTC)
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Proof ANYTHING can go with Winston Sharples' score to ALONG CAME A DUCK... Mickey Mouse


Wait.......what? So Mickey's Follies was colorized in some way, too?

The Colorized Cartoons Database (I think) pointed out that in 1984 (no doubt because of Disney discussing airing their cartoons on CBS), "Radio & Television Packagers" retraced ten Mickey shorts in color, but the database doesn't talk about the unexpected music changes they did to many of their works. Was Follies one of them?
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#400 Posted : Tuesday, February 27, 2018 3:09:01 AM(UTC)
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I believe the Radio & Television Packagers redrawns were not affiliated with Disney in any way. This is pure conjecture on my part, but it's clear the package was hastily cobbled together from largely bootleg B&W prints that may have been (in some cases wrongly) assumed to be public domain.
An Italian home movie distributor AVO FILM bought up the rights to the R&TVP shorts for Super 8 distribution likely in the mid-to-late 70s. I've seen prints of other redrawns turn up from time to time on other European eBay sites.
I could find no reference to a R&TVP version of "Mickey's Follies" online until this Super 8 print cropped up on French eBay in its original AVO box.
How or why R&TVP thought they could get away with retracing a bootleg Disney print with a replaced soundtrack in the first place is probably lost to time (or somewhere in the paperwork files of whoever owns these redrawns today).
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